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This is a tech solution for a non-tech problem. Why is there an uprising in car thefts? Why do people feel the need to steal someone's expensive property? Deal
by matsemann 3y ago
This is a tech solution for a non-tech problem. Why is there an uprising in car thefts? Why do people feel the need to steal someone's expensive property?
Deal with those issues first. Or someone will smash a window to steal something valuable no matter what you try.
- jack_riminton 3y agoYou want to eliminate all crime before doing anything to prevent crimes? Righto boss I'm off to remove all locks from my house for the cause
- SoftTalker 3y agoPeople used to use horses for transportation. You can't lock a horse, but there were substantial penalties for stealing a horse. It maybe was a capital crime at some point?
- jack_riminton 3y agoYou're right, the technology of horse locks wasn't available so people went to other lengths: branding, guards, registering of horses. In societies where there was the death penalty for such things there was still horse theft.
- bookofjoe 3y agoShort answer: yes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horse_theft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horse_theft
- matsemann 3y agoNo, that's not what I said. Don't straw man me. We already do stuff to prevent crimes. The cars have locks, alarms, cryptographic key fobs, tracking, cameras etc. etc. None of that works. Adding a new layer of security is surely not going to help. That's my point. The resources are better put elsewhere.
- boringg 3y agoYes great idea Captain! Let's solve all of societal issues before bothering to do any protection for your own personal assets. You've figured it out. And you know property crime is only a recent phenom of the last couple years. Never existed before the 1980s or you know tomb robbers etc.
- anonu 3y agoIf you think like that, then no problems should be solved by tech because there are completely viable non-tech solutions: Uber: just hail a taxi Amazon: just visit your local bookshops netflix: Renting DVDs is perfectly fine. Spotify: all the music you need is on AM/FM. Instagram: just meet up with friends in person Zoom: Conduct face-to-face meetings Zillow: Work with a real estate agent Yelp: Ask locals for restaurant or service recommendations Doordash: Call the restaurant directly for takeout or delivery, or cook at home.
- fargle 3y agonetflix does rent physical DVDs. Ending around next month.
- autoexec 3y agoMost of those aren't actually solving the same problems, but the point wasn't that non-tech solutions are always better, rather that if you solve the source of the problem you don't need annoying tech workarounds.
- matsemann 3y agoNot what I said. Read my other reply.
- jtriangle 3y agoYou should be doing both really. This, however, is not a good solution. A starter relay kill switch, hidden somewhere non-obvious, is far better. Not a suitable solution for mass-market of course, but, for a hacky intermediate solution, it'll work just fine, which is all the power sensing keypad is good for but with way more steps. The actual solution is to have real cryptographic security that isn't subject to replay attacks. Not difficult to do, or expensive, and already exists.