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Is the Mozilla foundation wasting money on awareness ads for pushing propertiary SaaS to add features? (Picture in article) Edit: Yes they are. I zoomed in on

Is the Mozilla foundation wasting money on awareness ads for pushing propertiary SaaS to add features? (Picture in article) Edit: Yes they are. I zoomed in on the pic.

darkwater 3y ago
Well, since tons of open source projects and foundations unfortunately use Slack already, they are being pragmatic, it makes sense. They should also push for opensource solutions for communication, at least lobbying in places like CNCF etc? Maybe.
- rightbyte 3y ago
  Slack is Salesforce, which is a spyware vendor. There is nothing pragmatic in pretending some superfluous changes makes Slack better.
  - darkwater 3y ago
    Limiting harassment would not limit the Salesforce spying [1], so it's not something they would have any core reason to avoid implementing, [1] assuming what you say is true
paulryanrogers 3y ago
Mozilla's mission is to make the internet better. Is it really so bad for them to praise-with-critique when a major service takes a (albeit small) step forward?
- computerfriend 3y ago
  Making Slack better makes the free and open internet worse by comparison (since Slack is not part of the free and open internet). Mozilla investing time and money in this makes the free and open internet worse due to the opportunity cost.
- rightbyte 3y ago
  It is not a step forward. Trusting Salesforce, especially for civil rights activity, is fundamentally broken. It seems to me like a huge waste of resources to put time and effort into convincing Salesforce of anything. How about telling people to stay away from it and make sure some "sudo apt-get install chatzilla" is available and easy to setup for the Women rights group and what ever. Also, "deafening" one user for your messages in a group chat is a great tool for bullying I guess. I don't see why you would want that or cheer it as some anti-bully step forward.

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Is the Mozilla foundation wasting money on awareness ads for pushing propertiary SaaS to add features? (Picture in article) Edit: Yes they are. I zoomed in on

by rightbyte 3y ago

Is the Mozilla foundation wasting money on awareness ads for pushing propertiary SaaS to add features? (Picture in article) Edit: Yes they are. I zoomed in on the pic.

darkwater 3y ago
Well, since tons of open source projects and foundations unfortunately use Slack already, they are being pragmatic, it makes sense. They should also push for opensource solutions for communication, at least lobbying in places like CNCF etc? Maybe.
- rightbyte 3y ago
  Slack is Salesforce, which is a spyware vendor. There is nothing pragmatic in pretending some superfluous changes makes Slack better.
  - darkwater 3y ago
    Limiting harassment would not limit the Salesforce spying [1], so it's not something they would have any core reason to avoid implementing, [1] assuming what you say is true
paulryanrogers 3y ago
Mozilla's mission is to make the internet better. Is it really so bad for them to praise-with-critique when a major service takes a (albeit small) step forward?
- computerfriend 3y ago
  Making Slack better makes the free and open internet worse by comparison (since Slack is not part of the free and open internet). Mozilla investing time and money in this makes the free and open internet worse due to the opportunity cost.
- rightbyte 3y ago
  It is not a step forward. Trusting Salesforce, especially for civil rights activity, is fundamentally broken. It seems to me like a huge waste of resources to put time and effort into convincing Salesforce of anything. How about telling people to stay away from it and make sure some "sudo apt-get install chatzilla" is available and easy to setup for the Women rights group and what ever. Also, "deafening" one user for your messages in a group chat is a great tool for bullying I guess. I don't see why you would want that or cheer it as some anti-bully step forward.