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What would be an example of a large area that will be uninhabitable for humans soon?

by baggy_trough 3y ago

zardo 3y ago
For the right definitions of "soon" and "uninhabitable" most of the Indian subcontinent and south east Asia.
- baggy_trough 3y ago
  I would like to know what the right definitions you have in mind are.
  - goerz 3y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet-bulb_temperature https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet-bulb_temperature
falcolas 3y ago
With only a little bit of snark: if you listen to insurers that would be Florida.
solardev 3y ago
(Not the OP) "Uninhabitable" is a vague word, but I found it useful to think about this in terms of global stability. The US Dept. of Defense (not a traditionally environmentalist group, though perhaps traditionally alarmist) did a series of studies on this. Here's a recent summary: https://media.defense.gov/2021/Oct/21/2002877353/-1/-1/0/DOD-CLIMATE-RISK-ANALYSIS-FINAL.PDF https://media.defense.gov/2021/Oct/21/2002877353/-1/-1/0/DOD... Basically habitability and stability isn't just a matter of "will this land burn you alive" but also access to cropland and rangeland, clean water, or avoiding negatives like increased hurricanes and wildfires, or simply floods and droughts. Migration out of increasingly harsh areas is expected to fuel global instability, across large regions of the world at a time, often in some of the most populous or contentious areas. While the DoD's regional analyses aren't released to the public, there are similar studies in academia... https://scholar.google.com/scholar_url?url=https://par.nsf.gov/servlets/purl/10297292&hl=en&ei=PYG1ZL_QL_GB6rQPj--j4AI&scisig=ABFrs3yfL46tXFKZjq7rG-3iQXr6&oi=scholarr https://scholar.google.com/scholar_url?url=https://par.nsf.g... (that one does go into detailed definitions of habitability). Basically the hot and humid areas of the world, like Southeast Asia and Sub Saharan Africa, are expected to spawn a lot of climate refugees. I believe more detailed models are out there, but I haven't looked too deep.

What would be an example of a large area that will be uninhabitable for humans soon?

zardo 3y ago

For the right definitions of "soon" and "uninhabitable" most of the Indian subcontinent and south east Asia.

baggy_trough 3y ago
I would like to know what the right definitions you have in mind are.
- goerz 3y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet-bulb_temperature https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet-bulb_temperature

falcolas 3y ago

With only a little bit of snark: if you listen to insurers that would be Florida.

solardev 3y ago

(Not the OP) "Uninhabitable" is a vague word, but I found it useful to think about this in terms of global stability. The US Dept. of Defense (not a traditionally environmentalist group, though perhaps traditionally alarmist) did a series of studies on this. Here's a recent summary: https://media.defense.gov/2021/Oct/21/2002877353/-1/-1/0/DOD-CLIMATE-RISK-ANALYSIS-FINAL.PDF https://media.defense.gov/2021/Oct/21/2002877353/-1/-1/0/DOD... Basically habitability and stability isn't just a matter of "will this land burn you alive" but also access to cropland and rangeland, clean water, or avoiding negatives like increased hurricanes and wildfires, or simply floods and droughts. Migration out of increasingly harsh areas is expected to fuel global instability, across large regions of the world at a time, often in some of the most populous or contentious areas. While the DoD's regional analyses aren't released to the public, there are similar studies in academia... https://scholar.google.com/scholar_url?url=https://par.nsf.gov/servlets/purl/10297292&hl=en&ei=PYG1ZL_QL_GB6rQPj--j4AI&scisig=ABFrs3yfL46tXFKZjq7rG-3iQXr6&oi=scholarr https://scholar.google.com/scholar_url?url=https://par.nsf.g... (that one does go into detailed definitions of habitability). Basically the hot and humid areas of the world, like Southeast Asia and Sub Saharan Africa, are expected to spawn a lot of climate refugees. I believe more detailed models are out there, but I haven't looked too deep.