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except it scales to 10s of thousands of sites. what value are you providing to this conversation other than unwarranted pessimism?

SanderNL 3y ago
.. which will all look and feel exactly the same and the only thing differentiating you from the competition is doing non-LLM and probably very human design.
- webdood90 3y ago
  yeah, I'm sure people that have no idea how to build a website are really good at making their website stand out, right? I work on a competitor website builder and I can tell you that this is definitely not the case. they'll leave in the default helper text we provide half the time.
- redleggedfrog 3y ago
  I don't actually work in the design part of the company, just occasionally implementing UX designs, but I've frequently been in the client meetings, and the point you make here cannot be overstated. This is the prime motivator of most clients when presented with a "templated" website - they want theirs to look different enough not to be recognized as the template. They want this so much they will push for sub-optimal UX, just for the sake of differentiation. I honestly don't blame them, as our templates, just as most templates, produce recognizable results - pretty much same site, different colors and logo. All that being said, for more than 3/4 of them, they change their mind pretty quick when they find out the price difference between going with the templates or having custom UX developed. And this is just with the farmed out UX people who are cheap - not our good designers who the big customers use. Templates are good 'cause they let the little guy at least have the form and functionality of the big guys as long as they can tolerate they're essentially a row house.
- rfrey 3y ago
  I don't disagree with you, but there are a lot of companies (mine included) that don't care if they stand out. I need a website so people believe I'm a real company; as a place to convey basic information about our product and team; and as a place to provide information on how to get in touch. It's a chore to make it and I'm happy to just phone it in.
erellsworth 3y ago
> except it scales to 10s of thousands of sites. Does it though? In what sense, other than content, would a site created by AI scale any better than one created by a human? Would each of these 10s of thousands of sites be unique? Or would they be slight variations on a theme? Because just about any human dev could write a script in a few hours to spin up WordPress sites with slight variations on a single theme, limited only by how much they were willing to spend on hosting. What value are you providing to this conversation other than unwarranted optimism?
- webdood90 3y ago
  > Because just about any human dev could write a script in a few hours what are you even talking about? because I'm talking about AI scaling for the Wix website builder. where people who don't even know how to write copy for their website, let alone code for, use to build a web presence.

SanderNL 3y ago

.. which will all look and feel exactly the same and the only thing differentiating you from the competition is doing non-LLM and probably very human design.

webdood90 3y ago
yeah, I'm sure people that have no idea how to build a website are really good at making their website stand out, right? I work on a competitor website builder and I can tell you that this is definitely not the case. they'll leave in the default helper text we provide half the time.
redleggedfrog 3y ago
I don't actually work in the design part of the company, just occasionally implementing UX designs, but I've frequently been in the client meetings, and the point you make here cannot be overstated. This is the prime motivator of most clients when presented with a "templated" website - they want theirs to look different enough not to be recognized as the template. They want this so much they will push for sub-optimal UX, just for the sake of differentiation. I honestly don't blame them, as our templates, just as most templates, produce recognizable results - pretty much same site, different colors and logo. All that being said, for more than 3/4 of them, they change their mind pretty quick when they find out the price difference between going with the templates or having custom UX developed. And this is just with the farmed out UX people who are cheap - not our good designers who the big customers use. Templates are good 'cause they let the little guy at least have the form and functionality of the big guys as long as they can tolerate they're essentially a row house.
rfrey 3y ago
I don't disagree with you, but there are a lot of companies (mine included) that don't care if they stand out. I need a website so people believe I'm a real company; as a place to convey basic information about our product and team; and as a place to provide information on how to get in touch. It's a chore to make it and I'm happy to just phone it in.

erellsworth 3y ago

> except it scales to 10s of thousands of sites. Does it though? In what sense, other than content, would a site created by AI scale any better than one created by a human? Would each of these 10s of thousands of sites be unique? Or would they be slight variations on a theme? Because just about any human dev could write a script in a few hours to spin up WordPress sites with slight variations on a single theme, limited only by how much they were willing to spend on hosting. What value are you providing to this conversation other than unwarranted optimism?

webdood90 3y ago
> Because just about any human dev could write a script in a few hours what are you even talking about? because I'm talking about AI scaling for the Wix website builder. where people who don't even know how to write copy for their website, let alone code for, use to build a web presence.