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This is assuming the first 10 victims are going to act in a selfish way. That's basically assuming victims behave like companies (which must be selfish because

by wiz21c 3y ago

This is assuming the first 10 victims are going to act in a selfish way. That's basically assuming victims behave like companies (which must be selfish because their management has to protect them). That's despicable.

edgyquant 3y ago
Humans optimize for their own self interest, this is basic economic theory. It’s not despicable it’s human nature.
- wiz21c 3y ago
  please don't mix up human nature and economic theory. That's not the same.
  - zenapollo 3y ago
    It’s not as different as you might think. There has been a movement of anthropologists to call homo sapien alternatively homo economicus. Our ability to accumulate and share resources, which allowed us to build and trade, has deep roots in evolutionary psychology and sociology, and as these anthropologists argue, is perhaps the thing that most poignantly makes us uniquely human.
  - edgyquant 3y ago
    In this case they are
pessimizer 3y ago
> That's despicable. What's despicable? That people would operate in their own self-interest, without regard to potential harm that is not in any way their fault coming to people they've never met? Or the "assumption" that people would behave that way? If acknowledging how people normally behave, especially when there's no moral obligation for them to behave otherwise, seems despicable, a lot of reality will become unacknowledgeable. Why would a claimant intentionally take a lower settlement to keep funds available for later claimants? They have as much obligation to do so as you do to give up a portion of your paycheck to make sure claimants against J&J are paid out. Why would being the victim of crime specially obligate someone? Isn't that just a second victimization?
- ClumsyPilot 3y ago
  > That people would operate in their own self-interest, without regard to potential harm that is not in any way their fault coming to people they've never met? We gave a name for that, it's calles psychopathy. "According to a study conducted by forensic psychologist Nathan Brooks from Bond University, around one in five corporate bosses have clinically significant psychopathic traits. This proportion is similar to that among prisoners. Journalist Jon Ronson found that CEOs are four times more likely to be psychopaths than the average person."

by wiz21c 3y ago

edgyquant 3y ago

Humans optimize for their own self interest, this is basic economic theory. It’s not despicable it’s human nature.

wiz21c 3y ago
please don't mix up human nature and economic theory. That's not the same.
- zenapollo 3y ago
  It’s not as different as you might think. There has been a movement of anthropologists to call homo sapien alternatively homo economicus. Our ability to accumulate and share resources, which allowed us to build and trade, has deep roots in evolutionary psychology and sociology, and as these anthropologists argue, is perhaps the thing that most poignantly makes us uniquely human.
- edgyquant 3y ago
  In this case they are

pessimizer 3y ago

> That's despicable. What's despicable? That people would operate in their own self-interest, without regard to potential harm that is not in any way their fault coming to people they've never met? Or the "assumption" that people would behave that way? If acknowledging how people normally behave, especially when there's no moral obligation for them to behave otherwise, seems despicable, a lot of reality will become unacknowledgeable. Why would a claimant intentionally take a lower settlement to keep funds available for later claimants? They have as much obligation to do so as you do to give up a portion of your paycheck to make sure claimants against J&J are paid out. Why would being the victim of crime specially obligate someone? Isn't that just a second victimization?

ClumsyPilot 3y ago
> That people would operate in their own self-interest, without regard to potential harm that is not in any way their fault coming to people they've never met? We gave a name for that, it's calles psychopathy. "According to a study conducted by forensic psychologist Nathan Brooks from Bond University, around one in five corporate bosses have clinically significant psychopathic traits. This proportion is similar to that among prisoners. Journalist Jon Ronson found that CEOs are four times more likely to be psychopaths than the average person."