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This website set me off on my current path in about 2005ish.

by detourdog 3y ago

jacquesm 3y ago
What is your current path? (Besides it being a detour...)
- detourdog 3y ago
  The simple explanation is the belief that (generally) High-end appliances charge too much money for too little thought. The use of material is inefficient and the supply chain could be better. I'm trying to make (ambition dates to 1990) a computing platform with a 100 year view of usage. The idea is that actual human usable technology can be quite slow becuase the human time scale is long. The churn of current technology is actual vestigial growth. As soon as I could I registered cogs.com under the belief that in the future we will only understand technology metaphor. Flash forward 30 years and I have finally established a small run manufacturing facility in an old school. I converted the 7 classrooms into studio apartments to facilitate my design ideas. The idea is rent the apartments for income and develop appliances with my CNC in the 60' x 30' gym/cafeteria/auditorium. Backyard Metalcasting set me off on building: wooden CNC with gecko drives from that guy who built the prototype kit in the bathroom with his wife yelling at him in processed unintelligible language with kids crying... The idea was that I can use it to make molds. Initial I was going to make appliances in batches of 10 and either stock what didn't sell or make more of what did. The idea of 10 is that technically I'm an industrial designer BSID 91 UArts. No industry no industrial design and I reasoned that by creating 10 of something it was proof of industry as opposed to art. I got a legitimate CNC for my studio behind my house and with 15 minutes of installation realized I needed to move it to a legitimate location. Found a school for sale a mile from my house house and decided to flip the script. I would simply make appliances in the gym and use the rental income instead of worrying about all the sales work. 7 was close to 10 and maybe I could get 3 walk sales. A short 5 years later the school is finally producing income with 2 studios rented one more and I'm either breaking even or a little ahead on an annual basis. I currently break even most months. (tax bills and insurance). I'm actually at the point where I can truly get started and I have been finalizing my technology stack. I plan to develop a sloppy in-efficient prototype version that considers the entire building as this 100 year computer and the HVAC/Power/cleaning/snow removal will all be managed by this computer. The belief is that the magic of the computers is in the integration of human need and simple experiences. There will also be a parallel track of development for a streamlined ultra efficient implementation of the same model. The reasoning between developing along those 2 tracks is that with the building I can focus on the human experience practicalities be damned. The refined version with be resolved experiences in the smallest form possible. Here is my studio. https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0YJEsNWnJEa0eN https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0YJEsNWnJEa0eN Here is the rental site with outdated photos but some pictures. view.cogs.com Shameless plug studio 4 and Studio 1 are currently available. The rent includes fiber connection and we can talk about a static IP if needed. Finally for the doomscrollers out there I have 4000 photos of the whole project here. Anyone can view this shared album at: https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0Y5oqs3qnakFd https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0Y5oqs3qnakFd HN provides a great survey of old and new technology trends with no ads. I find it is like shouting into the wind and marvel that the site works. I feel my path has been very consistent and filled with obstacles. I'm aware that I'm my own biggest obstacle.
  - notdarkyet 3y ago
    This is very interesting. I have looked into getting a garage CNC, what did you realize after the home install that you needed a legitimate location? The size and sound of it?
    - detourdog 3y ago
      Many reasons. I tend to overdue things so I spec’s pneumatic devices that required a large 10 bar compressor. I installed that in the basement and managed to muffle the sound with rockwool. I ordered a German machine which was to sensitive for a VFD so I used a motor-gen set which shook the 1879 New England farmhouse. The space for the CNC had low ceilings and it was cramped. I could have lived with it but considering the other issues I moved. I thought the move would be fast no way would it take more than 2 years. The money I was saving for runway is now an 8 unit apartment building but I have time and space.
  - jacquesm 3y ago
    This is absolutely fantastic. It's a pity you're on the other side of the Atlantic or I'd be more than happy to become one of your tenants. You may want to put a fresh certificate on cogs.com, the current one gives an error. Really, really love this, thank you for answering in such detail.
    - detourdog 3y ago
      Should be no certificates for cogs. I”m about to go through a revamp. I do short term rentals. Thanks for the feedback. I need the practice describing what I”m doing.
      - jacquesm 3y ago
        I just 'doomscrolled' through a few hundred of your pictures, incredible what you've done with that building, that must have been a pretty costly undertaking. I've done some work like that but on much smaller buildings and it gives me a bit more perspective on the magnitude of what you're doing and what you've accomplished already in a relatively short time. Best of luck with this whole project, I really wished I still lived in .ca.

This website set me off on my current path in about 2005ish.

jacquesm 3y ago

What is your current path? (Besides it being a detour...)

detourdog 3y ago
The simple explanation is the belief that (generally) High-end appliances charge too much money for too little thought. The use of material is inefficient and the supply chain could be better. I'm trying to make (ambition dates to 1990) a computing platform with a 100 year view of usage. The idea is that actual human usable technology can be quite slow becuase the human time scale is long. The churn of current technology is actual vestigial growth. As soon as I could I registered cogs.com under the belief that in the future we will only understand technology metaphor. Flash forward 30 years and I have finally established a small run manufacturing facility in an old school. I converted the 7 classrooms into studio apartments to facilitate my design ideas. The idea is rent the apartments for income and develop appliances with my CNC in the 60' x 30' gym/cafeteria/auditorium. Backyard Metalcasting set me off on building: wooden CNC with gecko drives from that guy who built the prototype kit in the bathroom with his wife yelling at him in processed unintelligible language with kids crying... The idea was that I can use it to make molds. Initial I was going to make appliances in batches of 10 and either stock what didn't sell or make more of what did. The idea of 10 is that technically I'm an industrial designer BSID 91 UArts. No industry no industrial design and I reasoned that by creating 10 of something it was proof of industry as opposed to art. I got a legitimate CNC for my studio behind my house and with 15 minutes of installation realized I needed to move it to a legitimate location. Found a school for sale a mile from my house house and decided to flip the script. I would simply make appliances in the gym and use the rental income instead of worrying about all the sales work. 7 was close to 10 and maybe I could get 3 walk sales. A short 5 years later the school is finally producing income with 2 studios rented one more and I'm either breaking even or a little ahead on an annual basis. I currently break even most months. (tax bills and insurance). I'm actually at the point where I can truly get started and I have been finalizing my technology stack. I plan to develop a sloppy in-efficient prototype version that considers the entire building as this 100 year computer and the HVAC/Power/cleaning/snow removal will all be managed by this computer. The belief is that the magic of the computers is in the integration of human need and simple experiences. There will also be a parallel track of development for a streamlined ultra efficient implementation of the same model. The reasoning between developing along those 2 tracks is that with the building I can focus on the human experience practicalities be damned. The refined version with be resolved experiences in the smallest form possible. Here is my studio. https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0YJEsNWnJEa0eN https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0YJEsNWnJEa0eN Here is the rental site with outdated photos but some pictures. view.cogs.com Shameless plug studio 4 and Studio 1 are currently available. The rent includes fiber connection and we can talk about a static IP if needed. Finally for the doomscrollers out there I have 4000 photos of the whole project here. Anyone can view this shared album at: https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0Y5oqs3qnakFd https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0Y5oqs3qnakFd HN provides a great survey of old and new technology trends with no ads. I find it is like shouting into the wind and marvel that the site works. I feel my path has been very consistent and filled with obstacles. I'm aware that I'm my own biggest obstacle.
- notdarkyet 3y ago
  This is very interesting. I have looked into getting a garage CNC, what did you realize after the home install that you needed a legitimate location? The size and sound of it?
  - detourdog 3y ago
    Many reasons. I tend to overdue things so I spec’s pneumatic devices that required a large 10 bar compressor. I installed that in the basement and managed to muffle the sound with rockwool. I ordered a German machine which was to sensitive for a VFD so I used a motor-gen set which shook the 1879 New England farmhouse. The space for the CNC had low ceilings and it was cramped. I could have lived with it but considering the other issues I moved. I thought the move would be fast no way would it take more than 2 years. The money I was saving for runway is now an 8 unit apartment building but I have time and space.
- jacquesm 3y ago
  This is absolutely fantastic. It's a pity you're on the other side of the Atlantic or I'd be more than happy to become one of your tenants. You may want to put a fresh certificate on cogs.com, the current one gives an error. Really, really love this, thank you for answering in such detail.
  - detourdog 3y ago
    Should be no certificates for cogs. I”m about to go through a revamp. I do short term rentals. Thanks for the feedback. I need the practice describing what I”m doing.
    - jacquesm 3y ago
      I just 'doomscrolled' through a few hundred of your pictures, incredible what you've done with that building, that must have been a pretty costly undertaking. I've done some work like that but on much smaller buildings and it gives me a bit more perspective on the magnitude of what you're doing and what you've accomplished already in a relatively short time. Best of luck with this whole project, I really wished I still lived in .ca.