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I liked the movie and enjoyed the visual pretext of the communication, although it always felt not very credible to me from a logical standpoint. I would expec
by ama5322 3y ago
I liked the movie and enjoyed the visual pretext of the communication, although it always felt not very credible to me from a logical standpoint.
I would expect two intelligent species intending and willing to communicate to form an increasingly complex communication scheme starting from basic principles.
Of course, this wouldn't have translated into a decent plot by itself.. :/
- giraffe_lady 3y ago[flagged]
- juliusgeo 3y ago[flagged]
- ama5322 3y agoNot sure what to think of this, as in sarcastic sense...? It's not like we're discussing trite software, I was just discussing about the "plot device" here where the decoding of an arbitrary language with complex symbology is a central feature. Doesn't it feel "forced" to you in the same way action movies show absolutely unrealistic martial arts moves for the sake of entertainment, or watching most "hackers" in computer movies? Wouldn't you agree that starting form the absolute basics would be a much sound/quicker way to come to a unambiguous shared vocabulary instead of just showing complex blots to another species and expecting them to decode it? It's also especially odd to me that the somehow the host civilization is doing the decoding part. Considering contact from a supposedly more advanced civilization, I would almost expect the opposite to be true, where the aliens would likely take most of the burden of establishing communication (and probably already did so by watching/listening). But I get it.. I still enjoyed the movie (like I can still enjoy action movies or computer movies)...
- kelipso 3y agoI get where you're coming from but the main thing in the story is that the aliens' perception of time was very different from that of humans; they could perceive their entire life at any given time. Given that, if the aliens could not imagine that humans only had this limited perception, the aliens would have thought the humans should already have known how their language worked...or something like that, miscommunication due to differences etc.
- dang 3y agoPlease follow the site guidelines. I removed the rate limit from your account on the assumption of good faith (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36719915 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36719915) and don't want to revert that, but if you keep posting like this we'll end up having to. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- giraffe_lady 3y agoHey remember a month ago when we had a huge thread with dozens or maybe even hundreds of comments about how interesting and thoughtful were the works of the unabomber? I wonder what all those commenters are up to I wonder what you might find if you follow some of them around for a few days. I wonder if they have any overlap with the folder of screenshots I have of users here advocating eugenics, colonialism, or infanticide. I truly can't guess either way.
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