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I wonder who this is for. It could be a great homelab server, but only 16GB of mem ruins that idea.

binary_ninja 3y ago
Why do you think 16GB is not enough for a home server? I am currently running a NAS with SMB, NFS, Nextcloud, LDAP, mail server, Roundcube, Uptime Kuma and a couple of websites and using around 1GB of RAM. Just curious what other people is doing.
- WesolyKubeczek 3y ago
  Probably stuff it to the brim with virtual machines, that kind of usage
  - binary_ninja 3y ago
    Well, yes, if you go full enterprise with 6 VM's and 30 Docker containers I can understand how you'd aim for 64GB of RAM but then, why would you want to use a fanless mini PC for it?
    - jacquesm 3y ago
      Fanless, mini and 64 GB or RAM in a single device is going to be a tough challenge anyway.
      - trustingtrust 3y ago
        I think super micro makes such edge devices. But then we are talking a different category now.
        jacquesm 3y ago
        Interesting! https://www.ahead-it.eu/en/shop/servers/embedded-iot/intel-atom-processor/supermicro-sys-e302-9a-nr-fanless-cse-e302il-a2sdi-4c-hln4f-rohs https://www.ahead-it.eu/en/shop/servers/embedded-iot/intel-a... Those? Technically they are fanless but I wonder how well they would work outside of a rack with high ambient, they seem to be fanless themselves but still rely on having plenty of air pulled across the casing. Mounting them vertically might work. 850 euro though!
        trustingtrust 3y ago
        Yep. I think they would throttle under heavy sustained load. But I don’t think these are for sustained load or home servers. Probably designed for places like traffic cams where maybe large image models need ram and prefer no moving parts that can fail. Even places like factory floors.
arp242 3y ago
It seems the CPU only supports up to 16G :-/ I wonder if there are any technical reasons for this or if it's Intel's market segmentation strategy intentionally crippling it.
mynegation 3y ago
This is for me, large city dweller with no basement or a place to tuck away a noisy server with fans. In fact, I already have something like this, with older specs, produced by no name Shenzhen company, tucked away under the couch and hosting a bunch of services.
- binary_ninja 3y ago
  Can you please confirm that "under the couch" is a literal statement. If so, could you please provide further details? I am extremely curious.
  - mynegation 3y ago
    “Under the couch” is a literal statement. This is a modern, not traditional couch, so its legs are raised maybe 10 inches? Gives some room for access and passive cooling.
    - binary_ninja 3y ago
      Doesn't it get loads of dust?
      - mynegation 3y ago
        Getting it dusted and vacuumed was the part of the deal I have with my wife regarding the existence of this server :-)
- helb 3y ago
  I live in a tiny village with a shit ton of space for anything, but would prefer this over a power hungry server anyway… At least until i fill part of the barn roof with solar panels.
- bomewish 3y ago
  What kinda services? Lots of hn comments say something like the above and I’m just deciding to ask this time.
c0wb0yc0d3r 3y ago
I use them for k8s nodes. Well... I use cheaper ones for nodes. At ~100$/node, you can't really go wrong. I feel these machines in particular are probably for office work where everything needed is online. I don't do IT but I would imagine that these machines would make the reduction of windows licensing fees pretty straightforward if your business is all done online.

Why do you think 16GB is not enough for a home server? I am currently running a NAS with SMB, NFS, Nextcloud, LDAP, mail server, Roundcube, Uptime Kuma and a couple of websites and using around 1GB of RAM. Just curious what other people is doing.

WesolyKubeczek 3y ago
Probably stuff it to the brim with virtual machines, that kind of usage
- binary_ninja 3y ago
  Well, yes, if you go full enterprise with 6 VM's and 30 Docker containers I can understand how you'd aim for 64GB of RAM but then, why would you want to use a fanless mini PC for it?
  - jacquesm 3y ago
    Fanless, mini and 64 GB or RAM in a single device is going to be a tough challenge anyway.
    - trustingtrust 3y ago
      I think super micro makes such edge devices. But then we are talking a different category now.
      - jacquesm 3y ago
        Interesting! https://www.ahead-it.eu/en/shop/servers/embedded-iot/intel-atom-processor/supermicro-sys-e302-9a-nr-fanless-cse-e302il-a2sdi-4c-hln4f-rohs https://www.ahead-it.eu/en/shop/servers/embedded-iot/intel-a... Those? Technically they are fanless but I wonder how well they would work outside of a rack with high ambient, they seem to be fanless themselves but still rely on having plenty of air pulled across the casing. Mounting them vertically might work. 850 euro though!
        trustingtrust 3y ago
        Yep. I think they would throttle under heavy sustained load. But I don’t think these are for sustained load or home servers. Probably designed for places like traffic cams where maybe large image models need ram and prefer no moving parts that can fail. Even places like factory floors.

arp242 3y ago

It seems the CPU only supports up to 16G :-/ I wonder if there are any technical reasons for this or if it's Intel's market segmentation strategy intentionally crippling it.

mynegation 3y ago

This is for me, large city dweller with no basement or a place to tuck away a noisy server with fans. In fact, I already have something like this, with older specs, produced by no name Shenzhen company, tucked away under the couch and hosting a bunch of services.

binary_ninja 3y ago
Can you please confirm that "under the couch" is a literal statement. If so, could you please provide further details? I am extremely curious.
- mynegation 3y ago
  “Under the couch” is a literal statement. This is a modern, not traditional couch, so its legs are raised maybe 10 inches? Gives some room for access and passive cooling.
  - binary_ninja 3y ago
    Doesn't it get loads of dust?
    - mynegation 3y ago
      Getting it dusted and vacuumed was the part of the deal I have with my wife regarding the existence of this server :-)
helb 3y ago
I live in a tiny village with a shit ton of space for anything, but would prefer this over a power hungry server anyway… At least until i fill part of the barn roof with solar panels.
bomewish 3y ago
What kinda services? Lots of hn comments say something like the above and I’m just deciding to ask this time.

c0wb0yc0d3r 3y ago

I use them for k8s nodes. Well... I use cheaper ones for nodes. At ~100$/node, you can't really go wrong. I feel these machines in particular are probably for office work where everything needed is online. I don't do IT but I would imagine that these machines would make the reduction of windows licensing fees pretty straightforward if your business is all done online.