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The doubling of energy prices pretty much wiped out the heavy industry sector around here. I remember the German heavy industry Rhein area unions protesting thi
by Garvi 3y ago
The doubling of energy prices pretty much wiped out the heavy industry sector around here. I remember the German heavy industry Rhein area unions protesting this in Berlin without much media coverage a few months ago.
- picadores 3y agoLet them eat environmental fanatics
- Garvi 3y agoThe protesters were quite clear it wasn't about any misguided environmental policies, but political ones. We used to get a lot of cheap energy from Russia. Now that pipelines are getting blown up mysteriously, it's a different world. And before someone accuses me of not badmouthing "the enemy" enough, know that even Ukraine is still importing billions worth of Russian gas and petrol products and thus financing the war against itself. Funny how that works.
- _kbh_ 3y ago> And before someone accuses me of not badmouthing "the enemy" enough, know that even Ukraine is still importing billions worth of Russian gas and petrol products and thus financing the war against itself. Funny how that works. Ukraine doesn't want to cut of Europes supply of Russian gas until they are ready. Russian gas transits via Ukraine but it remains to seen how long that will last for.
- motbus3 3y agoWar is the best seller of weapons. It promotes crisis and allow price inflation beyond reasonable. It also allow bizarre social movements to blame some enemy
- astrange 3y agoThat's because Germany exports its image of being rational and methodical so hard they accidentally believed in it and forgot they're all naturalistic-mystic Green Party hippies and shut their nuclear plants down.
- Garvi 3y agoI agree in principle. But the shutdown of nuclear reactors and subsequent switch to lignite coal burning power plants didn't affect the economy as much as it did the environment. Coal power is not more expensive, it's dirtier.
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago>lignite coal burning power plants didn't affect the economy as much as it did the environment. Coal power is not more expensive, it's dirtier. Yeah, but us humans live in that environment. I wonder hoe many years less life expectancy will be thanks to lignite burning and breathing in that coal dust.
- b3orn 3y ago> and subsequent switch to lignite coal burning power plants Didn't happen. It's still being used but it didn't replace nuclear, lignite use is down, it was roughly constant until 2018 and is in decline since 2019.
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- hef19898 3y agoCitation, please.
- boffinAudio 3y agoNot so hard to find for oneself: https://gpil.jura.uni-bonn.de/2021/01/germany-rejects-u-s-sanctions-against-nord-stream-2-as-contrary-to-international-law/ https://gpil.jura.uni-bonn.de/2021/01/germany-rejects-u-s-sa...
- hef19898 3y agoIndustry sectors are not being wiped out that fast so.
- Garvi 3y agoWhat is that statement based on? In my country heavy industry has halved in the past 12 months. I know multiple engineers who are now getting into software development because of it.
- hef19898 3y agoOn an European level, that doesn't seem to be the case so: https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=File:EU,_Industrial_production_for_total_industry_and_main_industrial_groupings,_2005-2022.png https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php... https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=Industrial_production_(volume)_index_overview https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php... Except the global dip during Covid, development is either stable or slightly increasing. A 50% drop in production sounds like a strong claim, requiring equally strong sources to back up.