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I haven't had a smartphone for ~7 years. I love it. I have a dumb phone hardly anyone calls, so often I leave it at home.

Moru 3y ago
My mother has a dumbphone too. Sweden is soon shutting down the 2G and 3G networks so then it will certainly be quiet.
- Zitrax 3y ago
  I don't have the full overview, but there are new "dumb" phones made that has 4G/5G, no? (Nokia 8210 seem to be one example, Punkt MP02 another)
- timeon 3y ago
  But is Edge still available then?
  - Moru 3y ago
    No
  - abwizz 3y ago
    i suspect most countries will reatain 2g services as a fallback and for old infrastructure components
- distances 3y ago
  Source for the 2G closure? 3G is getting silent in many areas but I've understood 2G usually stays to provide calls & sms in low coverage areas.
  - Moru 3y ago
    https://www.telia.se/privat/om/5g/nu-slacker-vi-3g-och-2g-naten/3g-2g-nedslackning-konsument https://www.telia.se/privat/om/5g/nu-slacker-vi-3g-och-2g-na...
    - distances 3y ago
      Interesting, thanks. How will they cover the northern Sweden, I wonde.
      - Moru 3y ago
        Me does too. The coverage looks better than expected for 4G though so we will see how it actually works in the mountains...
_hush_ 3y ago
How do you do 2FA? Bank wire confirmations? Never need Google Maps? No whatsapp and messenger to talk to friends and family? I'd love to be smartphone free but fail to see how I could do without those uses
- jussij 3y ago
  Dumb mobile phones still have SMS, so 2FA still works and since it is a telephone, talking to friends and family is also possible. I suspect the reasons the OP gave up on the smart phone was to get away from all of those phone apps.
  - _Algernon_ 3y ago
    You probably shouldn't use SMS based 2fa. It's much worse than the alternatives.
    - Mordisquitos 3y ago
      While SMS-based 2FA may be worse than the alternatives, it is clear that the previous commenter has decided that having a smartphone is much worse than the alternatives. Unless their financial institution offers a non-smartphone 2FA option, such as a PIN-based card reader[0], having to use SMS-based 2FA is a reasonable price to pay. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chip_Authentication_Program https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chip_Authentication_Program
- throw_pm23 3y ago
  For wire transfer there are still alternatives although becoming more and more difficult unfortunately. Other things one can still do without a smartphone, and the benefits outweigh the cons (for me at least).

Moru 3y ago

My mother has a dumbphone too. Sweden is soon shutting down the 2G and 3G networks so then it will certainly be quiet.

Zitrax 3y ago
I don't have the full overview, but there are new "dumb" phones made that has 4G/5G, no? (Nokia 8210 seem to be one example, Punkt MP02 another)
timeon 3y ago
But is Edge still available then?
- Moru 3y ago
  No
- abwizz 3y ago
  i suspect most countries will reatain 2g services as a fallback and for old infrastructure components
distances 3y ago
Source for the 2G closure? 3G is getting silent in many areas but I've understood 2G usually stays to provide calls & sms in low coverage areas.
- Moru 3y ago
  https://www.telia.se/privat/om/5g/nu-slacker-vi-3g-och-2g-naten/3g-2g-nedslackning-konsument https://www.telia.se/privat/om/5g/nu-slacker-vi-3g-och-2g-na...
  - distances 3y ago
    Interesting, thanks. How will they cover the northern Sweden, I wonde.
    - Moru 3y ago
      Me does too. The coverage looks better than expected for 4G though so we will see how it actually works in the mountains...

_hush_ 3y ago

How do you do 2FA? Bank wire confirmations? Never need Google Maps? No whatsapp and messenger to talk to friends and family? I'd love to be smartphone free but fail to see how I could do without those uses

jussij 3y ago
Dumb mobile phones still have SMS, so 2FA still works and since it is a telephone, talking to friends and family is also possible. I suspect the reasons the OP gave up on the smart phone was to get away from all of those phone apps.
- _Algernon_ 3y ago
  You probably shouldn't use SMS based 2fa. It's much worse than the alternatives.
  - Mordisquitos 3y ago
    While SMS-based 2FA may be worse than the alternatives, it is clear that the previous commenter has decided that having a smartphone is much worse than the alternatives. Unless their financial institution offers a non-smartphone 2FA option, such as a PIN-based card reader[0], having to use SMS-based 2FA is a reasonable price to pay. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chip_Authentication_Program https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chip_Authentication_Program
throw_pm23 3y ago
For wire transfer there are still alternatives although becoming more and more difficult unfortunately. Other things one can still do without a smartphone, and the benefits outweigh the cons (for me at least).