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Camneerg: The Mac Plus Web Server

50 points by cdcarter 3y ago

surteen 3y ago
From the "Old Site Archive" at https://www.spacerogue.net/wordpress/?page_id=47 https://www.spacerogue.net/wordpress/?page_id=47: Camneerg the machine, as well as the other systems and projects described within its pages have either ceased functioning, were dismantled, or given up on long ago.
- reilly3000 3y ago
  I was going to say that was lighting fast, how is it not getting clobbered right now. It was towards the top of my HN homepage just now.
  - ushakov 3y ago
    The IP of the website is owned by pair networks
lagniappe 3y ago
SpaceRogue is so cool. I was just watching the back episodes of his old Hacker News Network podcasts :) Too bad we don't have the stack of shame these days. https://www.youtube.com/@HackerNewsNetwork/videos https://www.youtube.com/@HackerNewsNetwork/videos
sharikous 3y ago
Interesting that's even possible. As we all know pre-NT Windows could not be trusted to remain on for long periods of time. Pre-X Mac OS was not a very stable system either. In fact Apple shipped Mac OS X "server" years before the "client" version because even as an unfinished product it was much more suited to work as server than anything else Apple had at the time.
- ForOldHack 3y ago
  There was WebStar and MacHTTP, both were in use for years, and had remarkable uptimes vs say... Windows NT which required constant patching. I ran MacHTTP on a Powerbook 540 that had an uptime of more than 7 years. Neither WebStar nor MacHTTP was Apple made. Mac OS X "server" was NeXT rebranded, and it was a finalized development product and server. It shipped with PowerMac G3 machines. Then there came AppleShare IP.
intothemild 3y ago
I want to point out how much faster to load the `/camneerg` site is to load than the `/wordpress` site on his domain. I'm not bashing wordpress here, but how fast older websites load even on a MacPlus!
coldcode 3y ago
When I started at Apple in 1995, the DTS website ran on a Mac SE under someone's desk.
OnlyMortal 3y ago
Heh. Way back when I used a POSIX-like socket library, called “GUSI”, that sat on top of either MacTCP or OpenTransport to write a server that ran inside a QuarkXPress XTension. It was based on a Steven’s UNIX Networking example. It ran in a co-operative thread, with an idle on the main thread yielding to it. It was used to batch process EPSF artwork into adverts (Yellow Pages). I even gave it a PowerPlant UI. The UI ran in XPress too. It wasn’t too hard to plumb in.

50 points by cdcarter 3y ago

From the "Old Site Archive" at https://www.spacerogue.net/wordpress/?page_id=47 https://www.spacerogue.net/wordpress/?page_id=47: Camneerg the machine, as well as the other systems and projects described within its pages have either ceased functioning, were dismantled, or given up on long ago.

reilly3000 3y ago
I was going to say that was lighting fast, how is it not getting clobbered right now. It was towards the top of my HN homepage just now.
- ushakov 3y ago
  The IP of the website is owned by pair networks

lagniappe 3y ago

SpaceRogue is so cool. I was just watching the back episodes of his old Hacker News Network podcasts :) Too bad we don't have the stack of shame these days. https://www.youtube.com/@HackerNewsNetwork/videos https://www.youtube.com/@HackerNewsNetwork/videos

sharikous 3y ago

Interesting that's even possible. As we all know pre-NT Windows could not be trusted to remain on for long periods of time. Pre-X Mac OS was not a very stable system either. In fact Apple shipped Mac OS X "server" years before the "client" version because even as an unfinished product it was much more suited to work as server than anything else Apple had at the time.

ForOldHack 3y ago
There was WebStar and MacHTTP, both were in use for years, and had remarkable uptimes vs say... Windows NT which required constant patching. I ran MacHTTP on a Powerbook 540 that had an uptime of more than 7 years. Neither WebStar nor MacHTTP was Apple made. Mac OS X "server" was NeXT rebranded, and it was a finalized development product and server. It shipped with PowerMac G3 machines. Then there came AppleShare IP.

intothemild 3y ago

I want to point out how much faster to load the `/camneerg` site is to load than the `/wordpress` site on his domain. I'm not bashing wordpress here, but how fast older websites load even on a MacPlus!

coldcode 3y ago

When I started at Apple in 1995, the DTS website ran on a Mac SE under someone's desk.

OnlyMortal 3y ago

Heh. Way back when I used a POSIX-like socket library, called “GUSI”, that sat on top of either MacTCP or OpenTransport to write a server that ran inside a QuarkXPress XTension. It was based on a Steven’s UNIX Networking example. It ran in a co-operative thread, with an idle on the main thread yielding to it. It was used to batch process EPSF artwork into adverts (Yellow Pages). I even gave it a PowerPlant UI. The UI ran in XPress too. It wasn’t too hard to plumb in.