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Personally think https://getkirby.com https://getkirby.com is the entry to beat but I guess it’s just because I’m used to it and it works incredibly well for my

Personally think https://getkirby.com https://getkirby.com is the entry to beat but I guess it’s just because I’m used to it and it works incredibly well for my use case.

chrisallick 3y ago
came here to say this. i went all over looking for a replacement... just pay for it. its exactly what you want. i built https://2020isasong.com/ https://2020isasong.com/ on kirby and tries to rebuild with grav and ended up deciding kirby was just too good.
- manuelmoreale 3y ago
  Agree and there’s something nice in using a paid product with a simple and straightforward license, no silly subscriptions and from a team that genuinely cares about the product. Plus the product itself is incredibly good and it’s getting better and better over time.
sdesol 3y ago
The active community for kirby is bigger than grav's as the following shows: https://devboard.gitsense.com/getkirby/kirby https://devboard.gitsense.com/getkirby/kirby https://devboard.gitsense.com/getgrav/grav https://devboard.gitsense.com/getgrav/grav Historically speaking, grav is more popular as it had over 2000 contributors, compared to kirby which is about 500. Full Disclosure: This is my tool
- manuelmoreale 3y ago
  It’s two different projects run in two different ways. I don’t think that looking at git is useful or insightful in this case.
  - sdesol 3y ago
    It is not just git though. It's looking at no code participation as well.
    - manuelmoreale 3y ago
      Yes but the two projects are run differently. Most of discussions around Kirby happen on the official discord server or on the official forum. So looking at git activity is not really all that useful.
      - sdesol 3y ago
        Yes you are right about not having the complete picture, as far as no code activity goes.
        manuelmoreale 3y ago
        But even from a code perspective I'm not sure comparing repos is always all that useful. I'm not sure about Grav but on the Kirby side, if I'm not mistaken, the current official repo started with the v3 and the two previous versions were archived. So you're only comparing the code activity from ~2019 onwards but Kirby has been around for more than 10 years at this point.
        sdesol 3y ago
        Thanks for the additional info. If we are were to just look at the repo stats, Kirby is a lot more active than Grav right now. Do you happen to know what the archived repos were and if they are public? If you look at https://devboard.gitsense.com/getkirby https://devboard.gitsense.com/getkirby you can see the insights for all the kirby org repos I do want to make it clear that Kirby is a very healthy project, if anybody is misinterpreting the data.
        manuelmoreale 3y ago
        They are not available as far as I can tell. If memory serves me well, the current kirby repo had a different name during v3 development and the code for v2 was living in another repo also named kirby. When v3 went live they renamed the two so that v3 became the kirby repo currently online and the old one became kirby-v2 or something like that. And that repo has now being archived apparently.
- tobimori 3y ago
  Kirby has a very loyal customer base w/ lots of people that exclusively work with Kirby in their day job (like I am) - there's a new update? People report the first bugs in minutes. Huge benefit of Kirby imho (and also a reason why I prefer it over Statamic, Statamic people are often like "oh you have a question? yeah go look into github issues from over three years ago, i'm not here to help" tbh)
fbnlsr 3y ago
I've had the pleasure to build a small website with Kirby and it was such a joy to use as a developer. The only problem I faced was with my client as he was used to Wordpress and making the transition to Kirby was a bit rough for him.
- chiefalchemist 3y ago
  Can you unpack this a bit? What was rough? How much of that was the client not being able to change? I'm lightly looking into alternatives to WordPress. Obviously CraftCMS come up, but being a paid product - nothing work with that per se - does limit its appeal for some projects / client. So maybe there's a place for Kirby?
  - manuelmoreale 3y ago
    Keep in mind that Kirby is also a paid product
    - chiefalchemist 3y ago
      Oh? Thx. I missed that.
miragecraft 3y ago
Another vote for Kirby and I’ve tried them all.

Personally think https://getkirby.com https://getkirby.com is the entry to beat but I guess it’s just because I’m used to it and it works incredibly well for my use case.

chrisallick 3y ago

came here to say this. i went all over looking for a replacement... just pay for it. its exactly what you want. i built https://2020isasong.com/ https://2020isasong.com/ on kirby and tries to rebuild with grav and ended up deciding kirby was just too good.

manuelmoreale 3y ago
Agree and there’s something nice in using a paid product with a simple and straightforward license, no silly subscriptions and from a team that genuinely cares about the product. Plus the product itself is incredibly good and it’s getting better and better over time.

sdesol 3y ago

The active community for kirby is bigger than grav's as the following shows: https://devboard.gitsense.com/getkirby/kirby https://devboard.gitsense.com/getkirby/kirby https://devboard.gitsense.com/getgrav/grav https://devboard.gitsense.com/getgrav/grav Historically speaking, grav is more popular as it had over 2000 contributors, compared to kirby which is about 500. Full Disclosure: This is my tool

manuelmoreale 3y ago
It’s two different projects run in two different ways. I don’t think that looking at git is useful or insightful in this case.
- sdesol 3y ago
  It is not just git though. It's looking at no code participation as well.
  - manuelmoreale 3y ago
    Yes but the two projects are run differently. Most of discussions around Kirby happen on the official discord server or on the official forum. So looking at git activity is not really all that useful.
    - sdesol 3y ago
      Yes you are right about not having the complete picture, as far as no code activity goes.
      - manuelmoreale 3y ago
        But even from a code perspective I'm not sure comparing repos is always all that useful. I'm not sure about Grav but on the Kirby side, if I'm not mistaken, the current official repo started with the v3 and the two previous versions were archived. So you're only comparing the code activity from ~2019 onwards but Kirby has been around for more than 10 years at this point.
        sdesol 3y ago
        Thanks for the additional info. If we are were to just look at the repo stats, Kirby is a lot more active than Grav right now. Do you happen to know what the archived repos were and if they are public? If you look at https://devboard.gitsense.com/getkirby https://devboard.gitsense.com/getkirby you can see the insights for all the kirby org repos I do want to make it clear that Kirby is a very healthy project, if anybody is misinterpreting the data.
        manuelmoreale 3y ago
        They are not available as far as I can tell. If memory serves me well, the current kirby repo had a different name during v3 development and the code for v2 was living in another repo also named kirby. When v3 went live they renamed the two so that v3 became the kirby repo currently online and the old one became kirby-v2 or something like that. And that repo has now being archived apparently.
tobimori 3y ago
Kirby has a very loyal customer base w/ lots of people that exclusively work with Kirby in their day job (like I am) - there's a new update? People report the first bugs in minutes. Huge benefit of Kirby imho (and also a reason why I prefer it over Statamic, Statamic people are often like "oh you have a question? yeah go look into github issues from over three years ago, i'm not here to help" tbh)

fbnlsr 3y ago

I've had the pleasure to build a small website with Kirby and it was such a joy to use as a developer. The only problem I faced was with my client as he was used to Wordpress and making the transition to Kirby was a bit rough for him.

chiefalchemist 3y ago
Can you unpack this a bit? What was rough? How much of that was the client not being able to change? I'm lightly looking into alternatives to WordPress. Obviously CraftCMS come up, but being a paid product - nothing work with that per se - does limit its appeal for some projects / client. So maybe there's a place for Kirby?
- manuelmoreale 3y ago
  Keep in mind that Kirby is also a paid product
  - chiefalchemist 3y ago
    Oh? Thx. I missed that.

miragecraft 3y ago

Another vote for Kirby and I’ve tried them all.