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> I then used Alexa from another room and said “Alexa, bake at 400° Fahrenheit for twenty minutes”. Later I looked at the logs I like how at no point did you r

> I then used Alexa from another room and said “Alexa, bake at 400° Fahrenheit for twenty minutes”. Later I looked at the logs I like how at no point did you realize the complete and unnecessary idiocy of remote controlling potentially dangerous appliances. You have to walk up to it to put the food inside. Is pushing a few buttons afterward that difficult? Ok, so you sent your kid, you trust him or her to put the food inside but not operate the controls? What if your kid forgot to remove the cardboard wrapper? Why is this IoT nonsense needed? WHY? For the love of God someone please explain to me why this was invented and what non-problem it solves. You're not even supposed to leave a toaster unattended let alone a microwave oven. Anyone that thinks "blind people, did you read the article?" should know that braille keypads and egg timer style analogue knobs on microwaves existed 40 years ago. Things that can burn your house down should not be connected to the internet. There should be laws on the books for this. If you're so busy and so important that this presents an actionable problem then maybe you need a live-in housekeeper/butler. I know what you're thinking, oh you must be some Orcas Island Luddite who thinks we should go back to the stone ages. "I can preheat my Wi-Fi connected oven on the drive home!" So you trust the kid you didn't trust enough to operate the temperature controls, to not have hidden his toys inside. All so you can shave 10 minutes off your frozen pizza. We live in an era of amazing technology that is increasingly applied in the dumbest ways possible.

giraffe_lady 3y ago
Eh they made a series of choices clearly planned for and intended and likely marketed by the creators of the devices. You're maybe right that it shouldn't exist, but given that it does the fault isn't with the user. But the voice controls being an accessibility boon is part of the current context here. I think they're exactly right to place the failure with amazon.
- batiudrami 3y ago
  In my industry (rail, which admittedly is more keen on system safety than most) this would absolutely be the responsibility of the designer not the user. Poor safety in design, simple as that.

giraffe_lady 3y ago

Eh they made a series of choices clearly planned for and intended and likely marketed by the creators of the devices. You're maybe right that it shouldn't exist, but given that it does the fault isn't with the user. But the voice controls being an accessibility boon is part of the current context here. I think they're exactly right to place the failure with amazon.

batiudrami 3y ago
In my industry (rail, which admittedly is more keen on system safety than most) this would absolutely be the responsibility of the designer not the user. Poor safety in design, simple as that.