Okay fair, but they make sure to over-represent themselves in every HN conversation concerning power generation, cities, cars or bicycles. I think the style of

Okay fair, but they make sure to over-represent themselves in every HN conversation concerning power generation, cities, cars or bicycles. I think the style of argument rayiner is employing is essentially preaching to the choir; it won't land with people who derive their anti-nuclear stance from a pro-urbanization goal. And this seems to be the primary motivation of anti-nuclear people on HN specifically. In the general public, earnest if misguided concern for safety is more common than a pro-urbanization motive, but HN isn't representative of the general public.