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This seems like a conspiracy theory being strung by linguistic aesthetics. Capitalism is not a centralized ideology, it's perfectly fine to loathe liberalism a

This seems like a conspiracy theory being strung by linguistic aesthetics. Capitalism is not a centralized ideology, it's perfectly fine to loathe liberalism and individual freedoms and still enjoy the economic prosperity that can come from a free market. About the "third world exploitation that makes the system possible", could you please substantiate this claim? Working at factories in the third world is not demeaning as you imply, it's a good way to make enough money to build a life on and most of the third world (ironically not China) has unions to negotiate decent pay. TikTok is also owned by the Chinese government which is not capitalist at all, we have extensive proof one of it's main objectives is destroying democracy and capitalism as a universal value. [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Document_Number_Nine https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Document_Number_Nine] You seem to parrot things that seem aesthetically true (hard work is important) but aren't at all through inspection.

xk_id 3y ago
> linguistic aesthetics not sure that's a thing. > Capitalism is not a centralized ideology You are confusing capitalism and consumerism. My post refers to consumerism, which emerged in the 20th century; capitalism predates consumerism, while consumerism slightly predates neoliberal reforms. Indeed, Chinese culture is an example of non-democratic consumerism, proving the separation between concepts. The history of consumerism and how Western countries have intertwined it with societal control can be traced back to Freud, Bernays, Lippmann and Dichter. Freud's premise was that there are primitive urges in the human mind which invariably threaten the stability of society. Bernays invented the techniques of public relations in order to manipulate those urges effectively, render people docile and manufacture their consent; they are today the bedrock of advertising. Lippmann argued that average citizens are inherently irrational in their democratic choices, which makes it necessary for an elite class to steer their opinion. Dichter tied it all together by promising that embracing sex and consumer hedonism will create a stable society and he furthered Bernays' work in psychoanalytic marketing. These are all facts and an academically accepted narrative. Perhaps it sounds like a conspiracy theory because you haven't looked at it before. Consumerism was deliberately engineered in the 20th century in order to achieve socio-economic stability, without devolving into either nazism or communism. > About the "third world exploitation that makes the system possible", could you please substantiate this claim? Just some random examples: Nestle's reliance on child trafficking and slavery for the production of cocoa; epidemic of worker suicide at the factories where Apple's products are being manufactured; quinoa becoming unaffordable and threatening the food security of indigenous communities who traditionally relied on it.
- red-iron-pine 3y ago
  > You are confusing capitalism and consumerism. My post refers to consumerism, which emerged in the 20th century; capitalism predates consumerism, while consumerism slightly predates neoliberal reforms. Indeed, Chinese culture is an example of non-democratic consumerism, proving the separation between concepts. Bollocks. Capitalism can't exist with rampant consumption; the stock price must grow. Its like trying to differentiate the hair from the hair follicle -- yeah, they're different, but one only exists for the other.
  - xk_id 3y ago
    Capitalism predates consumerism by 4 centuries. The interest capitalism eventually took in the development of consumerism was mainly due to industrial surplus after the world wars. At that point, politicians were already looking into consumerism, as a form of social control.
- hotdogscout 3y ago
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xk_id 3y ago

> linguistic aesthetics not sure that's a thing. > Capitalism is not a centralized ideology You are confusing capitalism and consumerism. My post refers to consumerism, which emerged in the 20th century; capitalism predates consumerism, while consumerism slightly predates neoliberal reforms. Indeed, Chinese culture is an example of non-democratic consumerism, proving the separation between concepts. The history of consumerism and how Western countries have intertwined it with societal control can be traced back to Freud, Bernays, Lippmann and Dichter. Freud's premise was that there are primitive urges in the human mind which invariably threaten the stability of society. Bernays invented the techniques of public relations in order to manipulate those urges effectively, render people docile and manufacture their consent; they are today the bedrock of advertising. Lippmann argued that average citizens are inherently irrational in their democratic choices, which makes it necessary for an elite class to steer their opinion. Dichter tied it all together by promising that embracing sex and consumer hedonism will create a stable society and he furthered Bernays' work in psychoanalytic marketing. These are all facts and an academically accepted narrative. Perhaps it sounds like a conspiracy theory because you haven't looked at it before. Consumerism was deliberately engineered in the 20th century in order to achieve socio-economic stability, without devolving into either nazism or communism. > About the "third world exploitation that makes the system possible", could you please substantiate this claim? Just some random examples: Nestle's reliance on child trafficking and slavery for the production of cocoa; epidemic of worker suicide at the factories where Apple's products are being manufactured; quinoa becoming unaffordable and threatening the food security of indigenous communities who traditionally relied on it.

red-iron-pine 3y ago
> You are confusing capitalism and consumerism. My post refers to consumerism, which emerged in the 20th century; capitalism predates consumerism, while consumerism slightly predates neoliberal reforms. Indeed, Chinese culture is an example of non-democratic consumerism, proving the separation between concepts. Bollocks. Capitalism can't exist with rampant consumption; the stock price must grow. Its like trying to differentiate the hair from the hair follicle -- yeah, they're different, but one only exists for the other.
- xk_id 3y ago
  Capitalism predates consumerism by 4 centuries. The interest capitalism eventually took in the development of consumerism was mainly due to industrial surplus after the world wars. At that point, politicians were already looking into consumerism, as a form of social control.
hotdogscout 3y ago
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