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If you are a tourist in a Dutch city you will quickly be disabused of the notion that there is no road rage between pedestrians and cyclists. Do not ever idly w

If you are a tourist in a Dutch city you will quickly be disabused of the notion that there is no road rage between pedestrians and cyclists. Do not ever idly wander into a Dutch cycle lane, at any cost. You will be treated as invisible, people will cycle straight through you. Should they for some reason take notice of you, they will not slow down one bit, but swerve away imperceptibly, infinitesimally, from a collision, thus making sure you are sufficiently rattled by the encounter.

rcpt 3y ago
That sounds pretty tame compared to US road rage. It's what I'd expect by default when riding a bike on a fast street and it wouldn't even occur to me to call it "road rage"
nerdbert 3y ago
As someone who bikes in the touristiest Dutch city of them all, we aren't going to hit you. It is possible to do something so monumentally stupid as a pedestrian that you get hit and nobody could have helped you. That thing is to start crossing a bike path and then suddenly go backwards because you got scared. As long as you don't do that, you'll be fine. And the cyclists aren't nearly as annoyed by pedestrians as they are by mopeds.
globular-toast 3y ago
Oops, I see everyone misread my comment. I meant to say road rage between cyclists and road rage between pedestrians. Not between cyclists and pedestrians. The difference is car people have road rage with each other. Pedestrians and cyclists intermingling is a problem with the infrastructure. Car people can't even blame that as they have the best infrastructure of them all.
- uranusjr 3y ago
  Road rage between cyclists definitely still exists, and personally I can recall a few incidents (of my entire life) that might count as road rage between pedestrians. I think this is all proportional to how to can intimidate people with tool you have; motor vehicles are much more powerful so people become much more entitled.
talldatethrow 3y ago
I once saw a cyclist hit a pedestrian in Salem, OR. The pedestrian then beat up the cyclist to where I'm sure he lost teeth. Others called the police and I eventually left when the ambulance arrived. The cyclist was still laying on the ground, and the pedestrian was long gone. Let's hope those dutch don't purposely hit an American.

rcpt 3y ago

That sounds pretty tame compared to US road rage. It's what I'd expect by default when riding a bike on a fast street and it wouldn't even occur to me to call it "road rage"

nerdbert 3y ago

As someone who bikes in the touristiest Dutch city of them all, we aren't going to hit you. It is possible to do something so monumentally stupid as a pedestrian that you get hit and nobody could have helped you. That thing is to start crossing a bike path and then suddenly go backwards because you got scared. As long as you don't do that, you'll be fine. And the cyclists aren't nearly as annoyed by pedestrians as they are by mopeds.

globular-toast 3y ago

Oops, I see everyone misread my comment. I meant to say road rage between cyclists and road rage between pedestrians. Not between cyclists and pedestrians. The difference is car people have road rage with each other. Pedestrians and cyclists intermingling is a problem with the infrastructure. Car people can't even blame that as they have the best infrastructure of them all.

uranusjr 3y ago
Road rage between cyclists definitely still exists, and personally I can recall a few incidents (of my entire life) that might count as road rage between pedestrians. I think this is all proportional to how to can intimidate people with tool you have; motor vehicles are much more powerful so people become much more entitled.

talldatethrow 3y ago

I once saw a cyclist hit a pedestrian in Salem, OR. The pedestrian then beat up the cyclist to where I'm sure he lost teeth. Others called the police and I eventually left when the ambulance arrived. The cyclist was still laying on the ground, and the pedestrian was long gone. Let's hope those dutch don't purposely hit an American.