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Depends. If you're out in the boonies with nothing but shoulderless rural highway roads then yeah, ebikes aren't great, but for the majority of Americans (let
by hughesjj 3y ago
Depends. If you're out in the boonies with nothing but shoulderless rural highway roads then yeah, ebikes aren't great, but for the majority of Americans (let alone westerners or people in general) ebikes are more than enough.
I'm 6'2" 260lbs and can ride a lectric xpedition all over Seattle hills with my girlfriend on the back and enough gear to have a picnic and go shopping for a fun day out. The same bike has a two seater orbiter for little kids on the back and still room for cargo.
I just got back from Paris and Amsterdam. In Paris, I saw a dude riding a bike towing a trailer with 6 more ebikes on it. This was around Montmartre, which is notoriously hilly.
In Amsterdam, there's this thing called a bakfiet, which is super popular and carries even more cargo than that lectric bike I have. It's big enough for you to put two teenagers into with a parent driving, or two dogs comfortably, or enough groceries for your doomsday shelter.
I don't buy the cold either. Bar mitts exist, and are on almost every bike in NYC, which definitely gets cold in the winter. I've seen it in Boston too. You can also get studded tires for the snow, and to be real I'd rather lose control in the snow on a <100lb bike over a >2000 pound car if the snow is really that bad.
That said, yeah, there's no climate control in a bike. If you dress in layers and with the appropriate gear it's mitigated but definitely less convenient imo. Also if you're a super commuter, yeah ebikes will take forever, but to be fair super committing sucks regardless. Sucked my life out doing 3-5 hours a day in Philly traffic back when I was doing that, really happy and privileged not to have to do that anymore. The gas was stupid expensive too, I was filling up every other day at minimum.
I'm not saying we should get rid of cars. I am saying that there are and always have been alternatives, and those alternatives are pretty darn nice these days, and for me better in every case save for Costco runs and camping/road trips. Mostly, I'm saying that we shouldn't resign ourselves to being car dependent, because it sucks.
After getting my first big boy west coast job, I was determined to never have to go through the bs trauma I got being car dependent again, and I'm much happier for it.
No more getting stuck on the PA turnpike for hours due to an overturned 18 wheeler. No more rear end collisions from rush hour cloverleaf merging. No more snow rusting out my brake lines and limping back to my mom's house to replace them with my dad before driving back to college to drop my gf off for work. No more borrowing a friend's car because my transmission gave out and my office had a super restrictive WFH policy. No more hailstorms and dealing with insurance who didn't want to cover the brand new rental car I was using when my transmission failed (yes that was literally the same month). No more inspections or tags or biannual maintenance or anxiety over how to get to work when things go wrong. No more stressing about geopolitics affecting the price at the pump when I was barely making enough to get by in the first place.
After 7 car free years in Seattle, I bought a car again. I love my Subaru. I've modded it a ton, and drove it all over the west coast. I will continue using my Subaru. My Subaru is a luxury, and it is a convenience, and I'm so much happier that I don't need to treat it as a requirement to earn a living or feed myself or whatever.
- BlargMcLarg 3y ago>In Amsterdam, there's this thing called a bakfiet, which is super popular It's not super popular. The things are a hassle to carry anything with, and any small things are easier done with a regular bike with a satchel or just carrying the bags. Doubly so in a place like Amsterdam, where general commodities are within walking distance and any big things are near a central station. >It's big enough for you to put two teenagers Two teenagers? With the average Dutch height? Are you trying to break their legs?
- hughesjj 3y agoYou got a point on dutch teenager height lol. By super popular I mean most blocks id see at least one or two parked or riding by me. I was staying around the museum district. To your point though I suppose when there's like 50 bikes per street in some of those areas along the that doesn't make it "super popular". ( https://maps.app.goo.gl/SDP55mmEDotWMuaK8 https://maps.app.goo.gl/SDP55mmEDotWMuaK8 ) I've seen them before in Seattle too around 2017 when prime now was still a thing. I shouldn't have said super popular, you're right, and more like early than late teenagers (thinking of my brothers), and even then I don't think it would be comfortable. I am saying they're an option if you really need the cargo room though. Stuff like this is comically large imo https://urbanarrow.com/family-bikes/family/ https://urbanarrow.com/family-bikes/family/ And then there's the absurd https://www.icebike.org/biggest-cargo-bike/ https://www.icebike.org/biggest-cargo-bike/ Realistically this is my gf's bike, albeit with the running boards and a pop up basket in place of one seat in the back https://ebikeescape.com/lectric-xpedition-review/ https://ebikeescape.com/lectric-xpedition-review/ And this is a newer trim of my bike, although I have paniers and a pop up cargo basket on the rear rack https://www.juicedbikes.com/products/ripcurrent-s https://www.juicedbikes.com/products/ripcurrent-s
- canucker2016 3y agodcrainmaker, who does reviews of sports-related tech devices, has written an annual blog entry when he gets a Christmas tree. Now that he lives in Amsterdam with three young children, he goes Christmas tree shopping with a cargo bike with the kids in the front cargo space. 2020: https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2020/12/getting-the-christmas-tree-home-via-bike-2020-edition.html https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2020/12/getting-the-christmas-tr... 2021: https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2021/12/getting-christmas-by-bike-home-edition.html https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2021/12/getting-christmas-by-bik... 2022: https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2022/12/getting-christmas-by-bike-edition.html https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2022/12/getting-christmas-by-bik...