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> But once AI enter a job it is entirely possible that this prevents future people from pursuing it, meaning that actual people get replaced with them. Through

> But once AI enter a job it is entirely possible that this prevents future people from pursuing it, meaning that actual people get replaced with them. Through an entirely implicit process and not because the machines are better, thus lowering the quality of the market which was already suffering. The opposite is also possible - AI entering a field would produce many new capabilities that require humans to be involved in their development, deployment, supervision, or working in supporting tasks. AI is probably the field that will generate the most demand induction. See "lump of labour" and "Jevons paradox", they are related to this topic of demand growth vs automation growth. - demand depends on supply https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induced_demand https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induced_demand - work depends on demand https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lump_of_labour_fallacy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lump_of_labour_fallacy - increased supply leads to increased demand https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jevons_paradox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jevons_paradox

ChatGTP 3y ago
There are just motivational aspects to it too, like do you want to supervise a bunch of AIs? Do you want a bunch of "AI" systems supervising you ? As much as we love AI and as much as it is getting shoved into our lives whether we like it or not from the tech overlords. I'm not sure everyone wants to be living in an AI world by default.
- JimtheCoder 3y ago
  "I'm not sure everyone wants to be living in an AI world by default." I sure don't. The problem is that the AI will be integrated into society far before people realize that they don't really want it, and it will be too late to turn back...
yyyk 3y ago
>>But once AI enter a job it is entirely possible that this prevents future people from pursuing it, meaning that actual people get replaced with them.... thus lowering the quality of the market which was already suffering. >The opposite is also possible - AI entering a field would produce many new capabilities that require humans to be involved in their development, deployment, supervision, or working in supporting tasks. A lot of humans entering a slightly different field may lower total unemployment, but parent was worried about quality, not unemployment per se.
godelski 3y ago
> The opposite is also possible Of course! That's what makes this hard. I apologize, I assumed we were already working with this prior but I think that was a bad assumption. It's just hard to see if things are cotton gins or the power loom.

ChatGTP 3y ago

There are just motivational aspects to it too, like do you want to supervise a bunch of AIs? Do you want a bunch of "AI" systems supervising you ? As much as we love AI and as much as it is getting shoved into our lives whether we like it or not from the tech overlords. I'm not sure everyone wants to be living in an AI world by default.

JimtheCoder 3y ago
"I'm not sure everyone wants to be living in an AI world by default." I sure don't. The problem is that the AI will be integrated into society far before people realize that they don't really want it, and it will be too late to turn back...

yyyk 3y ago

>>But once AI enter a job it is entirely possible that this prevents future people from pursuing it, meaning that actual people get replaced with them.... thus lowering the quality of the market which was already suffering. >The opposite is also possible - AI entering a field would produce many new capabilities that require humans to be involved in their development, deployment, supervision, or working in supporting tasks. A lot of humans entering a slightly different field may lower total unemployment, but parent was worried about quality, not unemployment per se.

godelski 3y ago

> The opposite is also possible Of course! That's what makes this hard. I apologize, I assumed we were already working with this prior but I think that was a bad assumption. It's just hard to see if things are cotton gins or the power loom.