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No need to apologise, I don't like YAML, I like Python, and I agree: I'd rather have a domain specific library than a DSL anyday. The best of both worlds is a

by veltas 3y ago

No need to apologise, I don't like YAML, I like Python, and I agree: I'd rather have a domain specific library than a DSL anyday. The best of both worlds is a good programming language that allows expressing domain specific libraries almost as if they were domain specific languages, without going so declarative that people don't know how to script anything anymore. I don't know if Python/doit really achieved that, but its task definitions seem almost as readable as the YAML, in a real language where I can do anything I want without asking permission. So I would always choose doit over Taskfile. But a better comparison is between doit and make. I much prefer make's basic syntax, although I dislike newer features which inevitably have stretched the syntax beyond its original simplicity, but conceivably you can achieve something similar to make in a language but as a library rather than a DSL, and it would be immediately friendlier and more powerful than make. Depending on what I was doing I would use doit, but for something simple I've still got make (and it would be easy to convert if desired, in fact I have some projects in mind that could do with this!).

BiteCode_dev 3y ago
Yes. I said it in another comment as well, but I'm rooting for a solid non turing complete conf language like CUElang (https://cuelang.org https://cuelang.org) to become popular. For now we can already use it to check and generate regular JSON or YAML, which is a good compat story. But imagine having this in CI instead of YAML files.
- rad_gruchalski 3y ago
  I prefer Jsonnet for JSON and YAML
  - BiteCode_dev 3y ago
    There is also Dhall. I've tried the 3 of them, eventually I found CUElang was the best balance between expressiveness, ability to enforce and check for constraints, and easy of use. But I would welcome any of them replacing the YAML mess we currently have in sysadmin.

by veltas 3y ago

BiteCode_dev 3y ago

Yes. I said it in another comment as well, but I'm rooting for a solid non turing complete conf language like CUElang (https://cuelang.org https://cuelang.org) to become popular. For now we can already use it to check and generate regular JSON or YAML, which is a good compat story. But imagine having this in CI instead of YAML files.

rad_gruchalski 3y ago
I prefer Jsonnet for JSON and YAML
- BiteCode_dev 3y ago
  There is also Dhall. I've tried the 3 of them, eventually I found CUElang was the best balance between expressiveness, ability to enforce and check for constraints, and easy of use. But I would welcome any of them replacing the YAML mess we currently have in sysadmin.