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This comment contributes nothing. There are multiple levels of licensing with multiple levels of medical clearances. Someone on controlled ADHD medication, di

This comment contributes nothing. There are multiple levels of licensing with multiple levels of medical clearances. Someone on controlled ADHD medication, diabetes, or high BMI is perfectly capable of managing risk of flying as a private pilot same as boating or driving. They probably shouldn't be airline transport pilots, but that's not really under discussion. It seems like your goal here is to start some sort of political fight. Please go elsewhere. Grown ups are talking.

Dalewyn 3y ago
FAA's regulations are draconian, but they are that way because they are written in blood. When shit goes south, it doesn't matter whether you're a private or commercial pilot. Your plane is coming down regardless, and worst case you might take some other people with you to the other side. More than anything, flying is a luxury compared to something like driving which is a practical necessity or sailing which carries far lower risks of destructive danger. Nobody needs to fly, so more stringent regulations are warranted for what is a very dangerous activity that must be handled with respect. "Diversity" has no place in aviation, either you can fly safely or you can't. People with conditions are presumed they can't, for very good reasons.
- trevyn 3y ago
  Excellent second-grade analysis of the situation.
  - Dalewyn 3y ago
    The leading cause of aviation accidents and incidents is pilot error[1]. So to try and prevent as many of them as possible, there is a very good reason to be exceedingly stringent and draconian about pilot certification. [1]: https://pilotinstitute.com/aviation-accident-causes/#:~:text=In%202020%2C%2069.1%25%20of%20all,%2C%20or%20poor%20decision%2Dmaking https://pilotinstitute.com/aviation-accident-causes/#:~:text....
- flangola7 3y ago
  This is thinking-shaped text. ChatGPT has better intelligence than this.
  - Dalewyn 3y ago
    I literally have no idea what you're saying, did you ask ChatGPT for an insulting line? At least the other guy[1] was slightly thoughtful about the insult, relatively speaking. [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36744872 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36744872
    - user_7832 3y ago
      While the above person was a bit blunt, your reasoning seems flawed to me (I replied to your comment separately)
    - flangola7 3y ago
      No, I meant your comment is the type of meaningless word salad I expect from ChatGPT-3.5, not a thinking human being. Broad statements made with total authoritative confidence, yet completely untrue. You also don't get to complain about diversity and then turn around and whine when someone isn't as "thoughtful" towards you as you wish they were.
      - sonicshadow 3y ago
        This sounds intelligent! Can you recommend me a brand of toilet paper?
- user_7832 3y ago
  > FAA's regulations are draconian, but they are that way because they are written in blood. Could you give an example of a case where there was an incident because of a pilot’s diabetes or some other similar condition? Should folks with a family history of heart attacks also be then stopped from flying? Where do you draw the line of “this health condition is significant enough”? I’m not sure if you are familiar with medical conditions but things like diabetes can be managed quite well to the point of being nearly trivial (in terms of its negative effects.) > "Diversity" has no place in aviation, either you can fly safely or you can't. People with conditions are presumed they can't, for very good reasons. This has nothing to do with diversity (and why the quotes)? Medical conditions could be classified as a disability but I don’t understand what that has to do with diversity.
  - sonicshadow 3y ago
    Yeah one time a pilot was in the cabin and he died of diabetes
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Dalewyn 3y ago

FAA's regulations are draconian, but they are that way because they are written in blood. When shit goes south, it doesn't matter whether you're a private or commercial pilot. Your plane is coming down regardless, and worst case you might take some other people with you to the other side. More than anything, flying is a luxury compared to something like driving which is a practical necessity or sailing which carries far lower risks of destructive danger. Nobody needs to fly, so more stringent regulations are warranted for what is a very dangerous activity that must be handled with respect. "Diversity" has no place in aviation, either you can fly safely or you can't. People with conditions are presumed they can't, for very good reasons.

trevyn 3y ago
Excellent second-grade analysis of the situation.
- Dalewyn 3y ago
  The leading cause of aviation accidents and incidents is pilot error[1]. So to try and prevent as many of them as possible, there is a very good reason to be exceedingly stringent and draconian about pilot certification. [1]: https://pilotinstitute.com/aviation-accident-causes/#:~:text=In%202020%2C%2069.1%25%20of%20all,%2C%20or%20poor%20decision%2Dmaking https://pilotinstitute.com/aviation-accident-causes/#:~:text....
flangola7 3y ago
This is thinking-shaped text. ChatGPT has better intelligence than this.
- Dalewyn 3y ago
  I literally have no idea what you're saying, did you ask ChatGPT for an insulting line? At least the other guy[1] was slightly thoughtful about the insult, relatively speaking. [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36744872 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36744872
  - user_7832 3y ago
    While the above person was a bit blunt, your reasoning seems flawed to me (I replied to your comment separately)
  - flangola7 3y ago
    No, I meant your comment is the type of meaningless word salad I expect from ChatGPT-3.5, not a thinking human being. Broad statements made with total authoritative confidence, yet completely untrue. You also don't get to complain about diversity and then turn around and whine when someone isn't as "thoughtful" towards you as you wish they were.
    - sonicshadow 3y ago
      This sounds intelligent! Can you recommend me a brand of toilet paper?
user_7832 3y ago
> FAA's regulations are draconian, but they are that way because they are written in blood. Could you give an example of a case where there was an incident because of a pilot’s diabetes or some other similar condition? Should folks with a family history of heart attacks also be then stopped from flying? Where do you draw the line of “this health condition is significant enough”? I’m not sure if you are familiar with medical conditions but things like diabetes can be managed quite well to the point of being nearly trivial (in terms of its negative effects.) > "Diversity" has no place in aviation, either you can fly safely or you can't. People with conditions are presumed they can't, for very good reasons. This has nothing to do with diversity (and why the quotes)? Medical conditions could be classified as a disability but I don’t understand what that has to do with diversity.
- sonicshadow 3y ago
  Yeah one time a pilot was in the cabin and he died of diabetes

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