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Exercise helps with inflammation the same way low-dose naltrexone helps with inflammation. They modulate opioid receptors, increase endorphins and drive down i

by ck2 3y ago

Exercise helps with inflammation the same way low-dose naltrexone helps with inflammation. They modulate opioid receptors, increase endorphins and drive down interleukin cytokines. Unfortunately neither actually cure the source of the inflammation, disease etc. https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=naltrexone+inflammation+cytokines+endorphins+opioid https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=naltrexone+inflammation... https://google.com/search?q=naltrexone+inflammation+cytokines+endorphins+opioid https://google.com/search?q=naltrexone+inflammation+cytokine...

Jacky4Chan 3y ago
First time I see someone talking about low-dose naltrexone on HN. There is a video on youtube about someone whose oral cancer was gone after taking it.
- markdown 3y ago
  > There is a video on youtube about someone whose oral cancer was gone after taking it. I know a guy who says that drinking noni juice cures all sorts of cancers. With your Youtube wisdom and my friends noni expertise, I'm sure the world will soon be cancer free.
  - Jacky4Chan 3y ago
    You seem to have very low reading comprehension, nowhere did I say low-dose naltrexone cures cancer. There is a youtube video about someone whose cancer was cured using low-dose naltrexone.
    - _Algernon_ 3y ago
      Dismissing an unseen Youtube video given no other evidence than that it is sourced from YT seems reasonable, rational even. The prior probability of a randomly selected YT video being trustworthy is probably a lot closer to 0 than 1.
      - Jacky4Chan 3y ago
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        _Algernon_ 3y ago
        At this point you've edited this comment twice. First it was "autist", then "lol", now "This place is a meme. Prior probablity hahaahaa...". Who knows what it will be in the future. None is appropriate as a response for hacker news. Please read the guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - Felotooto 3y ago
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      - hinkley 3y ago
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- BaculumMeumEst 3y ago
  I know a number of people whose cancer was gone after drinking water. Maybe I’ll tell them to put their story on youtube too.
- ck2 3y ago
  There are no serious claims or documentation of LDN curing cancer and that's not it's actual use. It's used to treat chronic, systemic inflammation and is one of the only "tools in the toolbox" for some very desperate people in long-term pain for years because you can't use things like corticosteroids which are destructive. There are some cases where it can reduce inflammation well enough and long enough in some people for the body to self-heal where it could not before as the damage was too severe and dysfunctional. This is a good site for layperson information or use google scholar for actual research https://ldnresearchtrust.org/what-is-low-dose-naltrexone-ldn https://ldnresearchtrust.org/what-is-low-dose-naltrexone-ldn
zer8k 3y ago
There are plenty of cases for exercise curing disease. Metabolic syndrome is basically cured exclusively through diet and exercise until it becomes too late to stop. Physical therapy is exercise and certainly that is curative. Exercise alone took my cholesterol panel from mildly elevated to absolutely normal, lowered my blood sugar, and improved many inflammatory markers. I cannot say the same for naltrexone. Bonus, my joints feel better, my lungs work better, and my CRP has never been lower. I dont even need to link studies. Literally go to the NIH, search title for "exercise" and whatever you want, and I bet you can find enough repeatable evidence to completely change your mind. I'd argue exercise, 4-6 times a week in some form or another, is arguably the simplest cure and preventative "medication" for the largest variety of common ailments in a post-scarcity society. The fact doctors don't actually "prescribe" exercise as a first line treatment for metabolic diseases is really a failing of our drug-happy medical system.
- Broken_Hippo 3y ago
  ... in a post-scarcity society... So, a world that doesn't exist?
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  - zer8k 3y ago
    The west is post scarcity. Obesity is an epidemic, diabetes in children is at a record never before seen, and people spend more time sitting still than moving.
    - Broken_Hippo 3y ago
      That doesn't describe post-scarcity. People don't even always have clean water, enough healthy food, access to medical care, housing, and so on. And you realistically cannot have scarcity in the "non-west" and then pretend you are post-scarcity in "the west". It just doesn't work like that. That's just "post-scarcity for folks and countries not being exploited", if it were true at all.

by ck2 3y ago

Jacky4Chan 3y ago

First time I see someone talking about low-dose naltrexone on HN. There is a video on youtube about someone whose oral cancer was gone after taking it.

markdown 3y ago
> There is a video on youtube about someone whose oral cancer was gone after taking it. I know a guy who says that drinking noni juice cures all sorts of cancers. With your Youtube wisdom and my friends noni expertise, I'm sure the world will soon be cancer free.
- Jacky4Chan 3y ago
  You seem to have very low reading comprehension, nowhere did I say low-dose naltrexone cures cancer. There is a youtube video about someone whose cancer was cured using low-dose naltrexone.
  - _Algernon_ 3y ago
    Dismissing an unseen Youtube video given no other evidence than that it is sourced from YT seems reasonable, rational even. The prior probability of a randomly selected YT video being trustworthy is probably a lot closer to 0 than 1.
    - Jacky4Chan 3y ago
      [flagged]
      - _Algernon_ 3y ago
        At this point you've edited this comment twice. First it was "autist", then "lol", now "This place is a meme. Prior probablity hahaahaa...". Who knows what it will be in the future. None is appropriate as a response for hacker news. Please read the guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - Felotooto 3y ago
    [flagged]
    - hinkley 3y ago
      [flagged]
BaculumMeumEst 3y ago
I know a number of people whose cancer was gone after drinking water. Maybe I’ll tell them to put their story on youtube too.
ck2 3y ago
There are no serious claims or documentation of LDN curing cancer and that's not it's actual use. It's used to treat chronic, systemic inflammation and is one of the only "tools in the toolbox" for some very desperate people in long-term pain for years because you can't use things like corticosteroids which are destructive. There are some cases where it can reduce inflammation well enough and long enough in some people for the body to self-heal where it could not before as the damage was too severe and dysfunctional. This is a good site for layperson information or use google scholar for actual research https://ldnresearchtrust.org/what-is-low-dose-naltrexone-ldn https://ldnresearchtrust.org/what-is-low-dose-naltrexone-ldn

zer8k 3y ago

There are plenty of cases for exercise curing disease. Metabolic syndrome is basically cured exclusively through diet and exercise until it becomes too late to stop. Physical therapy is exercise and certainly that is curative. Exercise alone took my cholesterol panel from mildly elevated to absolutely normal, lowered my blood sugar, and improved many inflammatory markers. I cannot say the same for naltrexone. Bonus, my joints feel better, my lungs work better, and my CRP has never been lower. I dont even need to link studies. Literally go to the NIH, search title for "exercise" and whatever you want, and I bet you can find enough repeatable evidence to completely change your mind. I'd argue exercise, 4-6 times a week in some form or another, is arguably the simplest cure and preventative "medication" for the largest variety of common ailments in a post-scarcity society. The fact doctors don't actually "prescribe" exercise as a first line treatment for metabolic diseases is really a failing of our drug-happy medical system.

Broken_Hippo 3y ago
... in a post-scarcity society... So, a world that doesn't exist?
- deleted 3y ago
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- zer8k 3y ago
  The west is post scarcity. Obesity is an epidemic, diabetes in children is at a record never before seen, and people spend more time sitting still than moving.
  - Broken_Hippo 3y ago
    That doesn't describe post-scarcity. People don't even always have clean water, enough healthy food, access to medical care, housing, and so on. And you realistically cannot have scarcity in the "non-west" and then pretend you are post-scarcity in "the west". It just doesn't work like that. That's just "post-scarcity for folks and countries not being exploited", if it were true at all.