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It's a nice theory if not for the fact that one never seem to run into things like these off Web searches.
by varjag 3y ago
It's a nice theory if not for the fact that one never seem to run into things like these off Web searches.
- duncan-donuts 3y agoYou used to be able to find them deep in search results but now it’s all blogspam. It’d be nice if this stuff was easier to find.
- varjag 3y agoYes you used to be able maybe in mid/late-aughties. This is not something recent.
- stOneskull 3y agohow about a search engine that ranks higher the less ads there are
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- phatskat 3y agoI get this metric but at what point is the cutoff? If a small home run website has good info and gets popular, and has to add more advertisements, do they then get deranked on the search engine that led people there?
- stOneskull 3y agoonly if there is something with the same info with less ads
- JohnFen 3y ago> If a small home run website has good info and gets popular, and has to add more advertisements More advertisements? Any advertisements make the site worse. More makes it more worse. It's so inexpensive to have a website these days, even one that pulls in a substantial number of visitors, that it's hard to make an argument that ads are necessary to pay for hosting.
- phatskat 3y agoOh for sure, just a hypothetical lol. And idk maybe you write software or something that you want to keep as free as you can, so ads make it doable to sustain that. There’s any number of valid reasons to advertise, and if it’s a site for content I support I’ll probably turn of ublock so long as the ads aren’t overwhelming or obstructing
- frogulis 3y agoIf you've missed all the HN love for it over the past while, there's a search engine here: https://search.marginalia.nu/ https://search.marginalia.nu/ which is trying to achieve just that
- Dalewyn 3y agoThat speaks more to the gentrification of search engines and their results rather than the loss of small, independent websites. Once upon a time, I could search for something on Yahoo or Google and get nothing but those kinds of websites in search results, even when some central repository sites like Wikipedia were starting to take root. Everything changed when the SEO nation attacked, and nobody expected the social media inquisition.
- varjag 3y agoIt's both. Loss of discoverability leads to ecological collapse of personal website. There's little point when the only reader is destined to be its own author. Period true search methods (webrings, curated indexes, portals and early search engines) are gone and so is the fighting chance for this kind of projects.
- mensetmanusman 3y agoThis doesn't make Google money.
- lolinder 3y agomarginalia.nu will turn up a lot of these. https://search.marginalia.nu/ https://search.marginalia.nu/
- mulmen 3y agoThe blog linked elsewhere in this thread is the #2 Google result for “how to nail jelly to a wall”. The web is very much searchable.
- Kamq 3y agoThat's kind of the point of wiby (the site that's doing the randomization in this post). They only index web 1.0 stuff. Not quite sure what their definition of that is, since I've seen recently updated things. Without CSS? Without JS? Maybe just websites that never make a JS fetch request once they're loaded.