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How do you get millions of people to decide to stop going to whichever site they are currently going to and go to your site instead?

mustafa_pasi 3y ago
It doesn't have to be millions. What if profit is not a motivation? What if you just want to be the host of some good communities or a less toxic web2.0 experience?
- mikequinlan 3y ago
  On Reddit I mainly participate in the subreddit for my town. The town subreddit has 50,000 members; the town plus neighboring towns has a total population of about 900,000. How will you get enough participants for it to be worthwhile for me to switch? r/Compilers has about 14,000 members. Again, how will you find that many people willing to contribute on that topic to make it worthwhile? r/ProgrammingLanguages has about 90,000 members. You have a chicken and egg problem -- until you have enough actively participating members, there is no benefit to moving.
- the-printer 3y ago
  Unless you don’t have anything indicative of a community already in place then this isn’t a sound enough motive.
WheelsAtLarge 3y ago
It's hard. I read somewhere that a new product must be at least 10 times better than the original for users to switch over. I wonder how that translates to creating a new Reddit?
- mikequinlan 3y ago
  It is very hard to start a new subreddit. You have to somehow initially get enough people to join and participate to create enough posts and conversations to get other people interested in joining.
  - Gtex555 3y ago
    chicken and the egg problem
- ttymck 3y ago
  > new product must be at least 10 times better than the original for users to switch over. Which product manager told you this? How does one measure how much "better" a product is than another? How does one then measure "willingness" to switch? Nevertheless, if reddit gets "10x worse", isn't that where the opportunity lies?
EA-3167 3y ago
The snarky voice in my head says, "Sell it to Elon Musk." More realistically though the truth is that mismanagement, changing circumstances and incentives (Reddit shifting from open platform to IPO prep for example), and a lack of innovation to keep up with changing demands all stand as risks to an existing platform. Arguably your job isn't to convince millions to drop their old site, it's to strike when said site does that themselves. If there had been a working, scaled, viable alternative to Reddit last month... Reddit would no longer exist.
ActorNightly 3y ago
Basically create a website that has some monetary rewards for participation, tied with some mechanics that leverage trading, FOMO and gambling. If you need proof this (i.e participating for a shot at monetary reward) works, look back at when Valve first implemented the ability to trade cosmetics with TF2, and look at how that evolved. Its actually simple enough to where Im surprised this hasn't been done already considering this happened https://finematics.com/vampire-attack-sushiswap-explained/ https://finematics.com/vampire-attack-sushiswap-explained/
- ManlyBread 3y ago
  That's a great way to get large amount of people who are interested in exploiting your site for profit while getting no genuine users whatsoever.
  - Lk7Of3vfJS2n 3y ago
    What's your definition of a genuine user?
    - mikequinlan 3y ago
      One that isn't a bot and isn't a scammer or spammer.
  - ActorNightly 3y ago
    When I say create a website, I don't mean hire some fresh grads to write some basic crypto blockchain on top of reddit. You of course need to design the system to be secure. You can do this in a number of ways.
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mustafa_pasi 3y ago

It doesn't have to be millions. What if profit is not a motivation? What if you just want to be the host of some good communities or a less toxic web2.0 experience?

mikequinlan 3y ago
On Reddit I mainly participate in the subreddit for my town. The town subreddit has 50,000 members; the town plus neighboring towns has a total population of about 900,000. How will you get enough participants for it to be worthwhile for me to switch? r/Compilers has about 14,000 members. Again, how will you find that many people willing to contribute on that topic to make it worthwhile? r/ProgrammingLanguages has about 90,000 members. You have a chicken and egg problem -- until you have enough actively participating members, there is no benefit to moving.
the-printer 3y ago
Unless you don’t have anything indicative of a community already in place then this isn’t a sound enough motive.

WheelsAtLarge 3y ago

It's hard. I read somewhere that a new product must be at least 10 times better than the original for users to switch over. I wonder how that translates to creating a new Reddit?

mikequinlan 3y ago
It is very hard to start a new subreddit. You have to somehow initially get enough people to join and participate to create enough posts and conversations to get other people interested in joining.
- Gtex555 3y ago
  chicken and the egg problem
ttymck 3y ago
> new product must be at least 10 times better than the original for users to switch over. Which product manager told you this? How does one measure how much "better" a product is than another? How does one then measure "willingness" to switch? Nevertheless, if reddit gets "10x worse", isn't that where the opportunity lies?

EA-3167 3y ago

The snarky voice in my head says, "Sell it to Elon Musk." More realistically though the truth is that mismanagement, changing circumstances and incentives (Reddit shifting from open platform to IPO prep for example), and a lack of innovation to keep up with changing demands all stand as risks to an existing platform. Arguably your job isn't to convince millions to drop their old site, it's to strike when said site does that themselves. If there had been a working, scaled, viable alternative to Reddit last month... Reddit would no longer exist.

ActorNightly 3y ago

Basically create a website that has some monetary rewards for participation, tied with some mechanics that leverage trading, FOMO and gambling. If you need proof this (i.e participating for a shot at monetary reward) works, look back at when Valve first implemented the ability to trade cosmetics with TF2, and look at how that evolved. Its actually simple enough to where Im surprised this hasn't been done already considering this happened https://finematics.com/vampire-attack-sushiswap-explained/ https://finematics.com/vampire-attack-sushiswap-explained/

ManlyBread 3y ago
That's a great way to get large amount of people who are interested in exploiting your site for profit while getting no genuine users whatsoever.
- Lk7Of3vfJS2n 3y ago
  What's your definition of a genuine user?
  - mikequinlan 3y ago
    One that isn't a bot and isn't a scammer or spammer.
- ActorNightly 3y ago
  When I say create a website, I don't mean hire some fresh grads to write some basic crypto blockchain on top of reddit. You of course need to design the system to be secure. You can do this in a number of ways.

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