> you're still fetching everything it's just without the waterfall It's exactly because of the waterfall. If I have to make 3 roundtrip fetches, and the latenc

> you're still fetching everything it's just without the waterfall It's exactly because of the waterfall. If I have to make 3 roundtrip fetches, and the latency of each is increased by 150ms, then eliminating 2 subsequent fetches will save me 300ms. > I've yet to see a modern-ish device (going back to iPhone 7s) that struggle so hard with rendering that progressive enhancement is valuable. I have used an uncountable number of websites that are extremely janky, slow to load, and overall unpleasant to use on mobile while traveling on trains and busses between cell towers. Some of that can be attributed to ads but the reality is you don't need SPA's to serve news. Remix is cool in that it lets you develop like an app but serve like a website.