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FSD on my Tesla hit a cone once. It was driving through construction which forced us into the opposite side of the street and really wanted to be in the lane th

by nunez 3y ago

FSD on my Tesla hit a cone once. It was driving through construction which forced us into the opposite side of the street and really wanted to be in the lane that had active construction on it. Because of this, it had a lot of trouble calculating trajectories and decided the best course of action was to hit a cone dead center. I emailed the FSD Beta team about this, and they didn't respond. I still use the system but my trust in it has been eroded quite a bit. Honestly, I often think about trading the car in for a "normal" electric car that doesn't have any self-driving features so that I'm not tempted to use them. For super long drives, LKAS is enough.

stephenitis 3y ago
LKAS?
- pmcjones 3y ago
  LKAS = Lane Keeping Assist System.
  - stephenitis 3y ago
    I appreciate it, I'll try to remember this acronym, I had previously heard it referred to merely as lane assist.
lockhouse 3y ago
If FSD has already proven itself untrustworthy why on earth would you still use it? You’re lucky it was just a cone you hit. The next time it could be a person. Why anyone is okay with beta testing these things with live non consenting humans around is just baffling.
- nunez 3y ago
  Because until the legalese says otherwise, I'm still responsible for driving the car, even if FSD is doing the driving, and it is still really good at driving super long stretches of highway for you
- Veedrac 3y ago
  Because the immediate downside risk is small and the upside benefit is incredible. Even with very low confidence in self driving vehicle development, eg. 1% chance of success in 10 years, the upside is overwhelmingly net positive in terms of lives saved, on top of all the other benefits of automating transport like freeing almost 10% of human drivers' waking hours in the US. If the risk taken was anywhere close to what it would have to be to scale down at the cost of slower deployment for safety reasons, we would know.

by nunez 3y ago

stephenitis 3y ago

LKAS?

pmcjones 3y ago
LKAS = Lane Keeping Assist System.
- stephenitis 3y ago
  I appreciate it, I'll try to remember this acronym, I had previously heard it referred to merely as lane assist.

lockhouse 3y ago

If FSD has already proven itself untrustworthy why on earth would you still use it? You’re lucky it was just a cone you hit. The next time it could be a person. Why anyone is okay with beta testing these things with live non consenting humans around is just baffling.

nunez 3y ago
Because until the legalese says otherwise, I'm still responsible for driving the car, even if FSD is doing the driving, and it is still really good at driving super long stretches of highway for you
Veedrac 3y ago
Because the immediate downside risk is small and the upside benefit is incredible. Even with very low confidence in self driving vehicle development, eg. 1% chance of success in 10 years, the upside is overwhelmingly net positive in terms of lives saved, on top of all the other benefits of automating transport like freeing almost 10% of human drivers' waking hours in the US. If the risk taken was anywhere close to what it would have to be to scale down at the cost of slower deployment for safety reasons, we would know.