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> During the magnetic-stimulation treatment, Peter was shown pictures of drugs and encouraged to reflect on the harmful consequences of his addiction. The hope

> During the magnetic-stimulation treatment, Peter was shown pictures of drugs and encouraged to reflect on the harmful consequences of his addiction. The hope is that his brain’s reward circuits—a complex network of interwoven brain regions that control pleasure-seeking behaviors—will get reconfigured in ways that ultimately alleviate cravings and strengthen self-control. Sounds like a scene right out of “A Clockwork Orange” [0] [0]: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066921/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066921/

phren0logy 3y ago
This really falls apart when you consider that not just cooperation but active effort on the part of the participant is required to make this work, otherwise it would be totally ineffective.
- civilitty 3y ago
  Wait until they see my new and improved Ludovico Technique, brought to you by the local ketamine clinic!
b33j0r 3y ago
Yeah, I think I’d rather handle any addiction myself than go through that. Especially when there are viable addiction treatments, but the overall treatment experience still always blame the person at a root level, so they aren’t as successful as they could be. Me. I started smoking cigs at 23, and not one doctor ever asked me why I started later than pretty much anyone else (got divorced, and my dude friends were smoking, thought I could outsmart nicotine.) Had to process it with nothing but terrible advice from people who never got addicted to anything. Then those who quit because they were pregnant/new dad with angry wife.
- c7DJTLrn 3y ago
  >Yeah, I think I’d rather handle any addiction myself than go through that Then you probably don't really know addiction. Recovered hard drug addicts can get cravings for substances for the rest of their lives. The brain doesn't let go because it knows it can get that feeling again at any time. Not relapsing is a continuous battle, although it gets easier with time. I get that the research sounds a bit disturbing, but if it works, it would be a groundbreaking therapy for addiction and a lot of people would be able to live their lives again.
  - b33j0r 3y ago
    I can accept that. But life is short. Such a horrific experience had better have provably positive outcomes before I’d sign up. Or sign up someone I love. Currently know some friends’ families with kids suffering harder addictions. I still wouldn’t destroy their sense of individuality by taping their eyelids open. I see it as, holy crap why are kids doing fentanyl? But I was a kid once, and hope they grow up with some sense of self-respect and responsibility. I have a bias, in that it seems when amortized, humans keep staying alive despite the newest drug.
lacrimacida 3y ago
Same thoughs here. Let’s hope they don’t play Beethoven during the stimulation.

phren0logy 3y ago

This really falls apart when you consider that not just cooperation but active effort on the part of the participant is required to make this work, otherwise it would be totally ineffective.

civilitty 3y ago
Wait until they see my new and improved Ludovico Technique, brought to you by the local ketamine clinic!

b33j0r 3y ago

Yeah, I think I’d rather handle any addiction myself than go through that. Especially when there are viable addiction treatments, but the overall treatment experience still always blame the person at a root level, so they aren’t as successful as they could be. Me. I started smoking cigs at 23, and not one doctor ever asked me why I started later than pretty much anyone else (got divorced, and my dude friends were smoking, thought I could outsmart nicotine.) Had to process it with nothing but terrible advice from people who never got addicted to anything. Then those who quit because they were pregnant/new dad with angry wife.

c7DJTLrn 3y ago
>Yeah, I think I’d rather handle any addiction myself than go through that Then you probably don't really know addiction. Recovered hard drug addicts can get cravings for substances for the rest of their lives. The brain doesn't let go because it knows it can get that feeling again at any time. Not relapsing is a continuous battle, although it gets easier with time. I get that the research sounds a bit disturbing, but if it works, it would be a groundbreaking therapy for addiction and a lot of people would be able to live their lives again.
- b33j0r 3y ago
  I can accept that. But life is short. Such a horrific experience had better have provably positive outcomes before I’d sign up. Or sign up someone I love. Currently know some friends’ families with kids suffering harder addictions. I still wouldn’t destroy their sense of individuality by taping their eyelids open. I see it as, holy crap why are kids doing fentanyl? But I was a kid once, and hope they grow up with some sense of self-respect and responsibility. I have a bias, in that it seems when amortized, humans keep staying alive despite the newest drug.

lacrimacida 3y ago

Same thoughs here. Let’s hope they don’t play Beethoven during the stimulation.