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Very nice... The EU saving the world again... First with micro USB... Then USB-C and now with replaceable batteries... I think companies could do it before 2027

Very nice... The EU saving the world again... First with micro USB... Then USB-C and now with replaceable batteries... I think companies could do it before 2027 though

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throw47474777j 3y ago
Harming the world more like, by making phones more fragile and less reliable.
- jdjdjdhhd 3y ago
  How?
  - scarby2 3y ago
    It will be very difficult to build a waterproof phone with a user replaceable battery
    - ktosobcy 3y ago
      yes, because 0,000001% population swim with phones and need water proof... seriously, splash resistant is more than enough for almost everyone...
    - throw47474777j 3y ago
      More materials will be used. People will change batteries that don’t need to be changed, and will buy and carry more batteries than they need. There will be a massive inventory of batteries in the supply chain, many of which will simply age out of their shelf life before ever being useful. The chances of this being a net gain for the environment are basically zero, but the waste will make money for a bunch of people.
      - DaSHacka 3y ago
        > The chances of this being a net gain for the environment are basically zero, but the waste will make money for a bunch of people. You mean as opposed to now with locked down serialized batteries requiring special tools to replace? I'm sorry I just cannot understand your point at all.
        throw47474777j 3y ago
        > I'm sorry I just cannot understand your point at all. Unnecessary batteries being sold = people profiting from waste.
        DaSHacka 3y ago
        As opposed to unnessary batteries unable to be reused? Or even the hardware of the devices themselves having a far higher chance of being thrown out in favor of the consumer 'just buying a new one,' as battery replacement costs get more and more prohibitively expensive.
        throw47474777j 3y ago
        Battery replacements aren’t prohibitively expensive, and iPhone at least don’t get ‘thrown out’ - they get recycled or reconditioned.
      - letrowekwel 3y ago
        Why exactly would people change batteries that don't need to be changed? Phones do have battery health indicators, and buying one costs money. There's no logical reason to change one, until they have degraded significantly. The only difference is that now you can change it more easily yourself, rather than having someone else do it for money, which they will happily do regardless of battery health. When combined with requirement for longer support with updates, this change in legislation will help creating a healthy second-hand market for more devices. Cheap, non-serviceable Android phones that get updates and are used only for a year or two are the real source of waste, we need a proper second-hand marker for those similar to expensive Apple devices.
    - Teever 3y ago
      'very difficult' It's already been done countless times.
      - throw47474777j 3y ago
        Always at a cost.
    - Moldoteck 3y ago
      There were in past samsungs with easy replaceable batteries AND waterproof. The neat part is, with current legislation it could be done better bc it doesn't require hot swapability unlike oledr samsung models. It's not difficult, it's just not in their priorities

Very nice... The EU saving the world again... First with micro USB... Then USB-C and now with replaceable batteries... I think companies could do it before 2027 though

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throw47474777j 3y ago

Harming the world more like, by making phones more fragile and less reliable.

jdjdjdhhd 3y ago
How?
- scarby2 3y ago
  It will be very difficult to build a waterproof phone with a user replaceable battery
  - ktosobcy 3y ago
    yes, because 0,000001% population swim with phones and need water proof... seriously, splash resistant is more than enough for almost everyone...
  - throw47474777j 3y ago
    More materials will be used. People will change batteries that don’t need to be changed, and will buy and carry more batteries than they need. There will be a massive inventory of batteries in the supply chain, many of which will simply age out of their shelf life before ever being useful. The chances of this being a net gain for the environment are basically zero, but the waste will make money for a bunch of people.
    - DaSHacka 3y ago
      > The chances of this being a net gain for the environment are basically zero, but the waste will make money for a bunch of people. You mean as opposed to now with locked down serialized batteries requiring special tools to replace? I'm sorry I just cannot understand your point at all.
      - throw47474777j 3y ago
        > I'm sorry I just cannot understand your point at all. Unnecessary batteries being sold = people profiting from waste.
        DaSHacka 3y ago
        As opposed to unnessary batteries unable to be reused? Or even the hardware of the devices themselves having a far higher chance of being thrown out in favor of the consumer 'just buying a new one,' as battery replacement costs get more and more prohibitively expensive.
        throw47474777j 3y ago
        Battery replacements aren’t prohibitively expensive, and iPhone at least don’t get ‘thrown out’ - they get recycled or reconditioned.
    - letrowekwel 3y ago
      Why exactly would people change batteries that don't need to be changed? Phones do have battery health indicators, and buying one costs money. There's no logical reason to change one, until they have degraded significantly. The only difference is that now you can change it more easily yourself, rather than having someone else do it for money, which they will happily do regardless of battery health. When combined with requirement for longer support with updates, this change in legislation will help creating a healthy second-hand market for more devices. Cheap, non-serviceable Android phones that get updates and are used only for a year or two are the real source of waste, we need a proper second-hand marker for those similar to expensive Apple devices.
  - Teever 3y ago
    'very difficult' It's already been done countless times.
    - throw47474777j 3y ago
      Always at a cost.
  - Moldoteck 3y ago
    There were in past samsungs with easy replaceable batteries AND waterproof. The neat part is, with current legislation it could be done better bc it doesn't require hot swapability unlike oledr samsung models. It's not difficult, it's just not in their priorities