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Searched for any chiptunes (in the original meaning) on that site, the only ones I could find are here: https://chiptune.app/browse/ModArchives/Dreamfish https:

Searched for any chiptunes (in the original meaning) on that site, the only ones I could find are here: https://chiptune.app/browse/ModArchives/Dreamfish https://chiptune.app/browse/ModArchives/Dreamfish. Perhaps there are more? In the 1990s chiptunes meant *tracker (Protracker, etc.) tunes with short loops used as instruments.

el_nahual 3y ago
I'm old enough to remember playing games with chiptunes, but young enough to not have known what a tracker was. This YouTube video (from the amazing Ahoy channel) is an incredible, in-depth overview of trackers, their sound and history: https://youtu.be/roBkg-iPrbw https://youtu.be/roBkg-iPrbw
nxpnsv 3y ago
For me it meant sid, and a bunch of ym trackers on atari st. The mods where just chip style. That said i really loved those old chip mods
- vardump 3y ago
  Absolutely no one referred to SID, YM etc. tunes as chiptunes in the nineties. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiptune https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiptune "The term is commonly used to refer to tracker format music using extremely basic and small samples that an old computer or console could produce (this is the original meaning of the term)"
  - nxpnsv 3y ago
    You may be correct about wording, it was a life time ago and I only spoke about this in Swedish. I think one of the trackers I used called itself a chip composor, there's a nice archive of these things things (some of them quite recent) here https://dhs.nu/files.php?t=chipeditor https://dhs.nu/files.php?t=chipeditor
  - peoplefromibiza 3y ago
    emphasis on that an old computer or console could produce (this is the original meaning of the term) chiptunes on Amiga (mod, xm) where reproducing samples of the sounds created with HW synthesizers (CHIPs), like, for example, the C64 SID, one of the most popular ever. For example the intro of "Cannon Fodder"[1] on the Amiga is not considered a chiptune, because it used samples from real instruments and a human singer For some original true chiptune, see the amazing work of the amazing Rob Hubbard[2] The 8bit electric guitar of Skate or die still gives me goosebumps almost 40 years later[3] [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiYuq6Ac3a0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiYuq6Ac3a0 [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Hubbard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Hubbard [3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqRXxPl6bXA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqRXxPl6bXA
    - vardump 3y ago
      "emphasis on that an old computer or console could produce (this is the original meaning of the term)" Yes, old computers and consoles with sampling capabilities. Chiptune means to "emulate" older sound chips with sampling hardware. In the nineties SID music was just SIDs. "For example the intro of "Cannon Fodder"[1] on the Amiga is not considered a chiptune, because it used samples from real instruments and a human singer" Agreed. "For some original true chiptune, see the amazing work of the amazing Rob Hubbard[2]" Rob's work is amazing, but I really don't think he'd refer them as chiptunes. In the early nineties, as a demo (intro) coder you wanted a chiptune when you had space constraints. 40 kB total for code / gfx / music, which was a pretty common size limit for Amiga intros that time, so you had maybe 4-15 kB for the chiptune. How do I know? I was there.
      - peoplefromibiza 3y ago
        I was there too. Not disagreeing with what you wrote, I was replying to "Absolutely no one referred to SID, YM etc. tunes as chiptunes in the *nineties*" They absolutely did in the 90s. I was organizing chiptunes nights in my city in Italy in the late 90s early 2000s and we were calling it either 8bit music, chip music or chiptunes. I did not invent the format, I discovered it in Berlin at the times. The guys in Berlin told me that they imported it from Tokyo ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
mdp2021 3y ago
"Chiptunes" means that some microprocessor was used as a sound synthesizer. In the initial years, you coded the tune. Then a standardization happened, as music code could be generalized in "sound patterns" definition and organization: hence, e.g., Chris Huelsbeck's Soundmonitor (1986). That is one of the first public "trackers". The name comes from the Ultimate Soundtracker on the Amiga (1987) - but the Paula was more typically used as a sampler, not as a synth. Speaking of "chiptunes" implies a style - that may or may not be the output of a tracker (it depends on how it is used).

el_nahual 3y ago

I'm old enough to remember playing games with chiptunes, but young enough to not have known what a tracker was. This YouTube video (from the amazing Ahoy channel) is an incredible, in-depth overview of trackers, their sound and history: https://youtu.be/roBkg-iPrbw https://youtu.be/roBkg-iPrbw

nxpnsv 3y ago

For me it meant sid, and a bunch of ym trackers on atari st. The mods where just chip style. That said i really loved those old chip mods

vardump 3y ago
Absolutely no one referred to SID, YM etc. tunes as chiptunes in the nineties. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiptune https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiptune "The term is commonly used to refer to tracker format music using extremely basic and small samples that an old computer or console could produce (this is the original meaning of the term)"
- nxpnsv 3y ago
  You may be correct about wording, it was a life time ago and I only spoke about this in Swedish. I think one of the trackers I used called itself a chip composor, there's a nice archive of these things things (some of them quite recent) here https://dhs.nu/files.php?t=chipeditor https://dhs.nu/files.php?t=chipeditor
- peoplefromibiza 3y ago
  emphasis on that an old computer or console could produce (this is the original meaning of the term) chiptunes on Amiga (mod, xm) where reproducing samples of the sounds created with HW synthesizers (CHIPs), like, for example, the C64 SID, one of the most popular ever. For example the intro of "Cannon Fodder"[1] on the Amiga is not considered a chiptune, because it used samples from real instruments and a human singer For some original true chiptune, see the amazing work of the amazing Rob Hubbard[2] The 8bit electric guitar of Skate or die still gives me goosebumps almost 40 years later[3] [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiYuq6Ac3a0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiYuq6Ac3a0 [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Hubbard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Hubbard [3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqRXxPl6bXA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqRXxPl6bXA
  - vardump 3y ago
    "emphasis on that an old computer or console could produce (this is the original meaning of the term)" Yes, old computers and consoles with sampling capabilities. Chiptune means to "emulate" older sound chips with sampling hardware. In the nineties SID music was just SIDs. "For example the intro of "Cannon Fodder"[1] on the Amiga is not considered a chiptune, because it used samples from real instruments and a human singer" Agreed. "For some original true chiptune, see the amazing work of the amazing Rob Hubbard[2]" Rob's work is amazing, but I really don't think he'd refer them as chiptunes. In the early nineties, as a demo (intro) coder you wanted a chiptune when you had space constraints. 40 kB total for code / gfx / music, which was a pretty common size limit for Amiga intros that time, so you had maybe 4-15 kB for the chiptune. How do I know? I was there.
    - peoplefromibiza 3y ago
      I was there too. Not disagreeing with what you wrote, I was replying to "Absolutely no one referred to SID, YM etc. tunes as chiptunes in the *nineties*" They absolutely did in the 90s. I was organizing chiptunes nights in my city in Italy in the late 90s early 2000s and we were calling it either 8bit music, chip music or chiptunes. I did not invent the format, I discovered it in Berlin at the times. The guys in Berlin told me that they imported it from Tokyo ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

mdp2021 3y ago

"Chiptunes" means that some microprocessor was used as a sound synthesizer. In the initial years, you coded the tune. Then a standardization happened, as music code could be generalized in "sound patterns" definition and organization: hence, e.g., Chris Huelsbeck's Soundmonitor (1986). That is one of the first public "trackers". The name comes from the Ultimate Soundtracker on the Amiga (1987) - but the Paula was more typically used as a sampler, not as a synth. Speaking of "chiptunes" implies a style - that may or may not be the output of a tracker (it depends on how it is used).