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I appreciate your comment, but it feels a bit cynical to be more afraid of federal agents than drug cartels. Then again, I don't have much experience with eithe

by csears 3y ago

I appreciate your comment, but it feels a bit cynical to be more afraid of federal agents than drug cartels. Then again, I don't have much experience with either, so maybe I'm being naive. That was partially why I was asking how to find a lawyer who deals with situations like this.

klyrs 3y ago
> so maybe I'm being naive. Well you got that one thing right, you are incredibly naive. If you want to reduce harm, volunteer at a safe injection site or try to start one up in your home town. If you want to cozy up between the feds and the cartels as an "innocent," with no knowledge of how anything works, tell your daughter you love her every day because you won't know which will be your last.
eschaton 3y ago
You should not be more afraid of federal agents than drug cartels. But you should be very afraid of both.
actuallyrizzn 3y ago
The feds are lawful evil. The cartels range from chaotic neutral to chaotic evil.
valar_m 3y ago
I'm not saying that federal agents are more dangerous than drug cartels. I'm saying that you're going to end up being arrested before you get the chance to find out.
- csears 3y ago
  I see your point. That is certainly a possibility. Although it would be highly inconvenient to be arrested or get in trouble with the feds, it would make for an interesting story at parties. That's always been something I've struggled with. So... silver lining? A lot of historical figures I respect have been arrested for standing by their convictions. So I would be in good company. It also could turn into a good opportunity for publicity. Plus, it might actually gain me credibility in the eyes of the cartels.
  - valar_m 3y ago
    Just some friendly advice man, I seriously doubt your company wants to be associated with any of this, so you may want to take them out of your profile. The west coast is waking up soon, don't wait around to do it.
    - csears 3y ago
      Good point. I have removed my employers from my bio. I don't think there was any implication that they were at all involved or endorsed anything I'm saying here, but it never hurts to avoid any potential backlash. Thanks for pointing that out.
      - facorreia 3y ago
        Friendly tip: you might want to remove them from your Linkedin profile too (or remove the link to your website from your HN bio).
        csears 3y ago
        Done. Thank you.
  - DonHopkins 3y ago
    >A lot of historical figures I respect have been arrested for standing by their convictions. So I would be in good company. You do realize that you're not going to actually get the chance to share a jail cell with any of those historical figures, don't you?
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  - duped 3y ago
    It'll be a fun story at parties after you serve up to 4 years in federal prison for each time you use a communication device in this venture (21 USC § 843 b) and then get to spend however many years in state prisons for criminal facilitation. Just keep in mind there's no parole for Federal crimes.
tsuujin 3y ago
I had a friend of the family killed by a drug cartel from Mexico. They had a relative in Mexico refuse to pay protection money (or some other scam, it’s not entirely clear) so the cartel crossed into the US and killed the entire family to send a message or some such nonsense. Cartels do not fuck around.

by csears 3y ago

klyrs 3y ago

> so maybe I'm being naive. Well you got that one thing right, you are incredibly naive. If you want to reduce harm, volunteer at a safe injection site or try to start one up in your home town. If you want to cozy up between the feds and the cartels as an "innocent," with no knowledge of how anything works, tell your daughter you love her every day because you won't know which will be your last.

eschaton 3y ago

You should not be more afraid of federal agents than drug cartels. But you should be very afraid of both.

actuallyrizzn 3y ago

The feds are lawful evil. The cartels range from chaotic neutral to chaotic evil.

valar_m 3y ago

I'm not saying that federal agents are more dangerous than drug cartels. I'm saying that you're going to end up being arrested before you get the chance to find out.

csears 3y ago
I see your point. That is certainly a possibility. Although it would be highly inconvenient to be arrested or get in trouble with the feds, it would make for an interesting story at parties. That's always been something I've struggled with. So... silver lining? A lot of historical figures I respect have been arrested for standing by their convictions. So I would be in good company. It also could turn into a good opportunity for publicity. Plus, it might actually gain me credibility in the eyes of the cartels.
- valar_m 3y ago
  Just some friendly advice man, I seriously doubt your company wants to be associated with any of this, so you may want to take them out of your profile. The west coast is waking up soon, don't wait around to do it.
  - csears 3y ago
    Good point. I have removed my employers from my bio. I don't think there was any implication that they were at all involved or endorsed anything I'm saying here, but it never hurts to avoid any potential backlash. Thanks for pointing that out.
    - facorreia 3y ago
      Friendly tip: you might want to remove them from your Linkedin profile too (or remove the link to your website from your HN bio).
      - csears 3y ago
        Done. Thank you.
- DonHopkins 3y ago
  >A lot of historical figures I respect have been arrested for standing by their convictions. So I would be in good company. You do realize that you're not going to actually get the chance to share a jail cell with any of those historical figures, don't you?
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- duped 3y ago
  It'll be a fun story at parties after you serve up to 4 years in federal prison for each time you use a communication device in this venture (21 USC § 843 b) and then get to spend however many years in state prisons for criminal facilitation. Just keep in mind there's no parole for Federal crimes.

tsuujin 3y ago

I had a friend of the family killed by a drug cartel from Mexico. They had a relative in Mexico refuse to pay protection money (or some other scam, it’s not entirely clear) so the cartel crossed into the US and killed the entire family to send a message or some such nonsense. Cartels do not fuck around.