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Don't stress about the cartel. You'll be arrested long before you ever get into contact with them. Instead, here a few things to help minimize the number of yea
by valar_m 3y ago
Don't stress about the cartel. You'll be arrested long before you ever get into contact with them. Instead, here a few things to help minimize the number of years you'll spend in prison away from your daughter and the rest of your family.
You mentioned meeting with the DEA in another comment. Bring a lawyer when you go. You'll have to call around to find one who will agree to put you in jeopardy of criminal prosecution when no liability presently exists. Look for an inexperienced solo practice attorney who needs the money. Don't waste your time calling large firms or any attorneys with a reputation they'd want to keep.
Be ready to give the agents every detail when you meet with them. If you hold anything material back, they'll add an additional count to the indictment for violating 18 U.S.C. § 1001.
Miranda warnings won't apply here, so you won't get the "right to remain silent" spill. That won't come until you're actually in handcuffs during the arrest. Everything you say in the meeting will still be admissible at your trial, however.
If you have any pets, you need to go ahead and find new homes for them. Dogs, especially anything over 5 lbs, tend to get shot when arrest warrants are served. Nobody wants to say it out loud, but honestly it's a better way to go than slowly starving to death in your home while you're in custody.
After you're arrested, you're going to need a new attorney. The good news is that you'll finally be able to hire a more reputable attorney to take your case.
> I know there have been situations where federal agencies have turned out to be "the bad guys", but I guess I'm optimistic that they are generally smart, well intentioned, and interested in some of the same outcomes that I'm talking about.
Oh, they're gonna be very friendly and super interested in your ideas.
- csears 3y agoI appreciate your comment, but it feels a bit cynical to be more afraid of federal agents than drug cartels. Then again, I don't have much experience with either, so maybe I'm being naive. That was partially why I was asking how to find a lawyer who deals with situations like this.
- klyrs 3y ago> so maybe I'm being naive. Well you got that one thing right, you are incredibly naive. If you want to reduce harm, volunteer at a safe injection site or try to start one up in your home town. If you want to cozy up between the feds and the cartels as an "innocent," with no knowledge of how anything works, tell your daughter you love her every day because you won't know which will be your last.
- eschaton 3y agoYou should not be more afraid of federal agents than drug cartels. But you should be very afraid of both.
- actuallyrizzn 3y agoThe feds are lawful evil. The cartels range from chaotic neutral to chaotic evil.
- valar_m 3y agoI'm not saying that federal agents are more dangerous than drug cartels. I'm saying that you're going to end up being arrested before you get the chance to find out.
- csears 3y agoI see your point. That is certainly a possibility. Although it would be highly inconvenient to be arrested or get in trouble with the feds, it would make for an interesting story at parties. That's always been something I've struggled with. So... silver lining? A lot of historical figures I respect have been arrested for standing by their convictions. So I would be in good company. It also could turn into a good opportunity for publicity. Plus, it might actually gain me credibility in the eyes of the cartels.
- valar_m 3y agoJust some friendly advice man, I seriously doubt your company wants to be associated with any of this, so you may want to take them out of your profile. The west coast is waking up soon, don't wait around to do it.
- csears 3y agoGood point. I have removed my employers from my bio. I don't think there was any implication that they were at all involved or endorsed anything I'm saying here, but it never hurts to avoid any potential backlash. Thanks for pointing that out.
- tsuujin 3y agoI had a friend of the family killed by a drug cartel from Mexico. They had a relative in Mexico refuse to pay protection money (or some other scam, it’s not entirely clear) so the cartel crossed into the US and killed the entire family to send a message or some such nonsense. Cartels do not fuck around.
- FormerBandmate 3y agoWhy would you ever deliberately put yourself in jeopardy of criminal prosecution ever
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