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> Or, maybe I'm just having trouble visualizing a smooth surface geometry that also has few normals back? I naively assumed the "smooth" planes were enabled by
by wahern 3y ago
> Or, maybe I'm just having trouble visualizing a smooth surface geometry that also has few normals back? I naively assumed the "smooth" planes were enabled by better absorption materials, rather than geometry. Maybe a mix?
You're not wrong. From a head-on perspective, especially from below, you'll find few if any curves. Newer stealth planes look curvier because photographs are often taken from above where the canopy is prominent, and where the top of the body and wings have some curvature. But look more closely. Even from above, the curves you see are usually on the trailing portion of surfaces or facing laterally; the leading edge of the wings on a B-2, F-22, or F-35 are actually flat and triangular, not at all like a typical diagram of an airfoil. This is especially true of the F-22 and F-35--if you look very closely, they're far more angular from more perspectives than the older B-2. The B-2 looks curvier from below, but the flying wing design isn't a coincidence; and I believe the B-2 also relies more heavily on radar absorbing skin than later aircraft, which rely more on simple geometry much like the F-117.
Moreover, beneath the skin of these planes it's widely believed that the framing uses sawtooth and other similar polygonal patterns you'd expect, a mitigation for radar that passes through the skin. And I would think that part of the engineering of these aircraft leverages radar transparent skin in some areas, not just absorbant skin, similar to a nose cone holding a radar.
Here's a really amazing slide presentation on the basics of stealth design: https://understandingairplanes.com/Stealth-Airplane-Design.pdf https://understandingairplanes.com/Stealth-Airplane-Design.p... (I first came across that document via an HN post several years ago.)
- gonzo41 3y agoThat's a great PDf. And in ~20-30 years I'll be really interested to know if the b2 did have active RF countermeasures.
- freefaler 3y agoThanks for the presentation. At the end there is a list of books by the presenter (who works at Boeing as structural engineer): - Lockheed Stealth by Bill Sweetman - America's Stealth Fighers and Bombers by James C. Goodall - Stealth Technology by J. Jones - Stealth Warplanes by Dough Richardson - The Radar Game: Understanding Stealth and Aircraft Survivability by Rebecca Grant - Skunk Works by Ben R. Rich And by Bill Sweetman - Inside the Stealth Bomber - Joint Strike Figher - F-22 Raptor There is also a good playlist on youtube covering some of the topics: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfIy3BUXB3vLu1ZZz9bQb03GDWOhdX6Ub https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfIy3BUXB3vLu1ZZz9bQb...