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You are not responsible for transporting children and / or their gear I see. At least one leg of every trip I make requires a larger vehicle. Oh, and I commut

You are not responsible for transporting children and / or their gear I see. At least one leg of every trip I make requires a larger vehicle. Oh, and I commute about 50 km each way ( 100 km total ) on a road heavily used by large trucks. I am not sure how small a vehicle I want to be in for that trip, especially after dark.

nerdbert 3y ago
I have two children of my own and am responsible for another. They all fit in a cargo bike when they were younger and now ride their own.
radu_floricica 3y ago
OP is suggesting that it's more efficient to change our whole road infrastructure in order to accommodate a partial solution he likes, instead of having an incremental upgrade that's so compatible with the existing infrastructure that you literally can't tell without looking up the model. I use electric scooters extensively. I love them. I own an electric MTB. I really really wish all city centers would be for pedestrians and bikes only. But for the love of god, I cannot understand people who pretend that ebikes are a full solution to any transportation issues.
- oblio 3y ago
  Ebikes are a solution for probably at least 60-80% of trips in places designed to for humans. But many places have been designed explicitly against humans (frequently against the "wrong kind" of humans).
  - sokoloff 3y ago
    Cars are a solution for somewhere north of 90% of trips in places designed for Americans. I'm not saying that I love it; as a family of four, we average about 6K miles on one of our cars and 3K on the other per year. I'd be hard pressed to cut that usage in half without significant sacrifice and it would be practically impossible to cut it to 25% or less. Winter skiing alone is probably 2.5K of those miles (10 trips @ 250 miles R/T) and there's not a practical substitute to get from here to there for a weekend of the kids' skiing.
    - oblio 3y ago
      > But many places have been designed explicitly against humans (frequently against the "wrong kind" of humans).

nerdbert 3y ago

I have two children of my own and am responsible for another. They all fit in a cargo bike when they were younger and now ride their own.

radu_floricica 3y ago

OP is suggesting that it's more efficient to change our whole road infrastructure in order to accommodate a partial solution he likes, instead of having an incremental upgrade that's so compatible with the existing infrastructure that you literally can't tell without looking up the model. I use electric scooters extensively. I love them. I own an electric MTB. I really really wish all city centers would be for pedestrians and bikes only. But for the love of god, I cannot understand people who pretend that ebikes are a full solution to any transportation issues.

oblio 3y ago
Ebikes are a solution for probably at least 60-80% of trips in places designed to for humans. But many places have been designed explicitly against humans (frequently against the "wrong kind" of humans).
- sokoloff 3y ago
  Cars are a solution for somewhere north of 90% of trips in places designed for Americans. I'm not saying that I love it; as a family of four, we average about 6K miles on one of our cars and 3K on the other per year. I'd be hard pressed to cut that usage in half without significant sacrifice and it would be practically impossible to cut it to 25% or less. Winter skiing alone is probably 2.5K of those miles (10 trips @ 250 miles R/T) and there's not a practical substitute to get from here to there for a weekend of the kids' skiing.
  - oblio 3y ago
    > But many places have been designed explicitly against humans (frequently against the "wrong kind" of humans).