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Sounds like Toronto. We have a streetcar tunnel people drive into constantly and it has a railway track and a million signs. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/tor

Sounds like Toronto. We have a streetcar tunnel people drive into constantly and it has a railway track and a million signs. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/queen-quay-streetcar-tunnel-suv-union-station-1.5435760 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/queen-quay-streetcar-... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queens_Quay_station https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queens_Quay_station https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1d/Queens_Quay_%26_York_Street_-_bollards_%26_signage.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1d/Queens_Q... Ok not a million signs, but there's at least 10.

jeffbee 3y ago
People are just inured to the omnipresent stupidity of drivers. Imagine how blinded by ideology you would need to be to write down that Waymo is bad because it stopped in a driving lane on three different occasions. As if DoorDash wasn't a global enterprise dedicated to double-parking intentionally!
- evandale 3y ago
  Yep. Send this article to someone trying to argue that cyclists never follow the law and should have licenses and be prepared to roll your eyes at the excuses they come up with... https://www.forbes.com/sites/carltonreid/2019/05/10/cyclists-break-far-fewer-road-rules-than-motorists-finds-new-video-study/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/carltonreid/2019/05/10/cyclists... People don't even consider cars speeding 10km/h over or rolling stop signs or right at red lights going 10km/h a crime, but if a cyclist rolls a stop sign going 5km/h it's goddamn anarchy that needed a solution yesterday.
- jancsika 3y ago
  > People are just inured to the omnipresent stupidity of drivers. Tell me at least a little about the ideology that starts with omnipresent human stupidity and improves safety by adding a new class of proprietary, intractable-decision-makers to that same system. Edit: reword
  - jeffbee 3y ago
    You are imputing upon me a philosophy I do not hold. I don't think AVs should be added to MeatVs. I think as soon as AVs reach a practicable level, human drivers of private cars should be banned in cities.
    - noduerme 3y ago
      If you want to live in a prison, fine. Don't try to impose it on the rest of us. And don't imagine it's for some greater good. The world you envision is vile.

jeffbee 3y ago

People are just inured to the omnipresent stupidity of drivers. Imagine how blinded by ideology you would need to be to write down that Waymo is bad because it stopped in a driving lane on three different occasions. As if DoorDash wasn't a global enterprise dedicated to double-parking intentionally!

evandale 3y ago
Yep. Send this article to someone trying to argue that cyclists never follow the law and should have licenses and be prepared to roll your eyes at the excuses they come up with... https://www.forbes.com/sites/carltonreid/2019/05/10/cyclists-break-far-fewer-road-rules-than-motorists-finds-new-video-study/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/carltonreid/2019/05/10/cyclists... People don't even consider cars speeding 10km/h over or rolling stop signs or right at red lights going 10km/h a crime, but if a cyclist rolls a stop sign going 5km/h it's goddamn anarchy that needed a solution yesterday.
jancsika 3y ago
> People are just inured to the omnipresent stupidity of drivers. Tell me at least a little about the ideology that starts with omnipresent human stupidity and improves safety by adding a new class of proprietary, intractable-decision-makers to that same system. Edit: reword
- jeffbee 3y ago
  You are imputing upon me a philosophy I do not hold. I don't think AVs should be added to MeatVs. I think as soon as AVs reach a practicable level, human drivers of private cars should be banned in cities.
  - noduerme 3y ago
    If you want to live in a prison, fine. Don't try to impose it on the rest of us. And don't imagine it's for some greater good. The world you envision is vile.