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> Blender currently provides no convenient spline creation, modeling, or reshaping tool Wow, I remember this recurring extra-modeling-schemes conversation abou

> Blender currently provides no convenient spline creation, modeling, or reshaping tool Wow, I remember this recurring extra-modeling-schemes conversation about Blender, and other FOSS mesh modelers from at least 2003...? Lol. (In 2D land, Inkscape actually retains a few of these various convenient add-on vector drawing methods to this day) The 3D modeling pitches were also always supported by CAD folks, who were looking to sideload about 10 tons of CAD kernel onto the latest parametric undertaking. Like, give us infinite modeling accuracy and resolution or give us death! One issue here is this scrappy, Blender-style "whatever works in the final cut" Hollywood mindset [1] vs. the "can I recommend this, as a platform, to all of my friends" mindset in which all contingency needs must be covered, and so Blender is never, ever good enough for you, maybe. Or perhaps the "model itself must be exported directly to high-accuracy industrial plans" mindset. The former is easier on FOSS teams. The latter always invites this "fork it" mentality and you sometimes get these temporary Frankensteinian spinoffs called "AutoBlenderCAD 3D", etc. Also reminds me of JPatch? And some other third-party FOSS projects, RIP... And: Cool if it turns into something great, even if for a while! 1. https://youtu.be/AE_5QyBykgg https://youtu.be/AE_5QyBykgg

app4soft 3y ago
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somat 3y ago
> Blender currently provides no convenient spline creation, modeling, or reshaping tool I suspect it is a bit of hyperbole on the part of the original poster. as Blender has had NURBS surfaces since.. well forever. However nurbs surfaces are very difficult to use in a reasonable manner. As a workable alternative Blender has subdivision surfaces. which as far as the end user is concerned are splines that actually integrate well with mesh geometry. That specific quote initially led me to dismiss the thread as someone jumping in without understanding blender at all. But I read the whole thread. And my personal conclusion(which does not matter a snot with regards to blender development) is that the original poster wants some poorly defined property that existing spline implementations don't provide(I suspect that if I were more familiar with splines this property would be obvious) and most importantly is willing to provide the dev time required to bring it to blender. So as a occasional blender user I welcome improvements to splines. In regards to modeling workflow. Realistically, something like blender is good enough for most projects. but my heart lies with constraint based pad and pocket parametric cad. it fits the way I think better.
- themodelplumber 3y ago
  It's that word "convenient" doing all the lifting, carrying years of depressing threads about how much more epic the NURBS implementation could be, if only, etc.
  - glompers 3y ago
    Nurbs noobs, unite: all you have to smoothe is your domains!
- agumonkey 3y ago
  present but hard is a classic issue, long ago 3dsmax (v2) got nurbs modeling too, but limited and slow.. you'd assume that's the norm, until you hit alias waavefront software where it's fast and intuitive. game changer
  - steve_adams_86 3y ago
    Ah, I have very fond memories of modeling with nurbs back in… Maybe 2001? 3ds max v2 was such an incredible playground for a 14-15 year old. V3 was amazing at the time too.
    - agumonkey 3y ago
      Big milestones for kinetix group for sure. Are you still into CGI ?
      - steve_adams_86 3y ago
        I am, but only have time for reading and occasionally playing around. Every year or two I dig into some software or catch up with new Blender features. If days were 48 hours, I’d be all over it on a regular basis. I fully intended to have a career in this stuff from age 13–20 or so. When it came down to it, the competition was insane and people were already willing to pay my good money to program, so… I took the path of last resistance :)

app4soft 3y ago

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somat 3y ago

> Blender currently provides no convenient spline creation, modeling, or reshaping tool I suspect it is a bit of hyperbole on the part of the original poster. as Blender has had NURBS surfaces since.. well forever. However nurbs surfaces are very difficult to use in a reasonable manner. As a workable alternative Blender has subdivision surfaces. which as far as the end user is concerned are splines that actually integrate well with mesh geometry. That specific quote initially led me to dismiss the thread as someone jumping in without understanding blender at all. But I read the whole thread. And my personal conclusion(which does not matter a snot with regards to blender development) is that the original poster wants some poorly defined property that existing spline implementations don't provide(I suspect that if I were more familiar with splines this property would be obvious) and most importantly is willing to provide the dev time required to bring it to blender. So as a occasional blender user I welcome improvements to splines. In regards to modeling workflow. Realistically, something like blender is good enough for most projects. but my heart lies with constraint based pad and pocket parametric cad. it fits the way I think better.

themodelplumber 3y ago
It's that word "convenient" doing all the lifting, carrying years of depressing threads about how much more epic the NURBS implementation could be, if only, etc.
- glompers 3y ago
  Nurbs noobs, unite: all you have to smoothe is your domains!
agumonkey 3y ago
present but hard is a classic issue, long ago 3dsmax (v2) got nurbs modeling too, but limited and slow.. you'd assume that's the norm, until you hit alias waavefront software where it's fast and intuitive. game changer
- steve_adams_86 3y ago
  Ah, I have very fond memories of modeling with nurbs back in… Maybe 2001? 3ds max v2 was such an incredible playground for a 14-15 year old. V3 was amazing at the time too.
  - agumonkey 3y ago
    Big milestones for kinetix group for sure. Are you still into CGI ?
    - steve_adams_86 3y ago
      I am, but only have time for reading and occasionally playing around. Every year or two I dig into some software or catch up with new Blender features. If days were 48 hours, I’d be all over it on a regular basis. I fully intended to have a career in this stuff from age 13–20 or so. When it came down to it, the competition was insane and people were already willing to pay my good money to program, so… I took the path of last resistance :)