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Does this mean that previously archived sites that use Flash will now be viewable?

lucgommans 3y ago
That would be nice. I was recently trying to play https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/interactive/science/rock-paper-scissors.html https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/interactive/scie... via archive.org, but it doesn't work. Also the swf file itself does not load in an old virtual machine. I don't know where to view error output besides the JavaScript console; it simply does nothing. (Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2290936 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2290936) I still occasionally think back to this engine when the topic of human randomness comes up (I do computer security for a living, so that's not infrequent)
- kmeisthax 3y ago
  Ruffle ships a browser extension that loads Ruffle into every tab you open, so Flash sites work as they were originally intended to. It's available for Chrome and Firefox. Safari works if you enable developer extensions and download our macOS app - we have to get into Mac App Store for it to work normally because apparently notarization isn't enough[0]. https://ruffle.rs/#downloads https://ruffle.rs/#downloads [0] It was enough for the old extensions API :/
  - lucgommans 3y ago
    Did that work on the NYT site for you? Because for me it doesn't seem to, but then I figure you're just replying in general and not about this rock-paper-scissors AI
    - kmeisthax 3y ago
      I did try on Ruffle, but it's a slightly older version, it's possible that either newer versions have a regression or you have a really old extension version.
      - lucgommans 3y ago
        Omg, it works! Why does this work? It doesn't work on Firefox ~4 on Windows XP with a real Flash player installed, nor does it work on MSIE8 on that system. I tried on the original site as well as on a custom file that embeds just that flash file, but no dice. I suppose it's worth uploading the swf to archive.org and seeing if it will work there as well. Edit: https://archive.org/details/newyorktimes-2010-interactive-rockpaperscissors https://archive.org/details/newyorktimes-2010-interactive-ro... says "failed to download game data" but I'm not seeing a failed request in the developer console. Not sure if that's a problem with my upload or if IA hasn't finished processing it or something. /edit It's not fully functional by the way: the computer is not being animated at all, the text areas are too small, the score counter doesn't update... but it runs! Thank you :)
        nosamu 3y ago
        I've opened some new Ruffle issues so we can hopefully fix the problems you mentioned: https://github.com/ruffle-rs/ruffle/issues/12071 https://github.com/ruffle-rs/ruffle/issues/12071 https://github.com/ruffle-rs/ruffle/issues/12073 https://github.com/ruffle-rs/ruffle/issues/12073 As I noted on those issues, this game uses multiple assets, so downloading and playing just the main SWF file won't work. You can play the game by loading the URL of its main SWF file in the Adobe Flash projector, which can still be downloaded from here: http://web.archive.org/web/20220401020702/https://www.adobe.com/support/flashplayer/debug_downloads.html http://web.archive.org/web/20220401020702/https://www.adobe....
Bakingpotato 3y ago
I think so. They had it before, but it worked kinda funky it should be better now.
codetrotter 3y ago
Hope this means that I can play Attak by Johnny Two Shoes again. https://web.archive.org/web/20161126122429/http://www.johnnytwoshoes.com/game/attak https://web.archive.org/web/20161126122429/http://www.johnny... There was a time when I used to play that game every day.

That would be nice. I was recently trying to play https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/interactive/science/rock-paper-scissors.html https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/interactive/scie... via archive.org, but it doesn't work. Also the swf file itself does not load in an old virtual machine. I don't know where to view error output besides the JavaScript console; it simply does nothing. (Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2290936 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2290936) I still occasionally think back to this engine when the topic of human randomness comes up (I do computer security for a living, so that's not infrequent)

kmeisthax 3y ago
Ruffle ships a browser extension that loads Ruffle into every tab you open, so Flash sites work as they were originally intended to. It's available for Chrome and Firefox. Safari works if you enable developer extensions and download our macOS app - we have to get into Mac App Store for it to work normally because apparently notarization isn't enough[0]. https://ruffle.rs/#downloads https://ruffle.rs/#downloads [0] It was enough for the old extensions API :/
- lucgommans 3y ago
  Did that work on the NYT site for you? Because for me it doesn't seem to, but then I figure you're just replying in general and not about this rock-paper-scissors AI
  - kmeisthax 3y ago
    I did try on Ruffle, but it's a slightly older version, it's possible that either newer versions have a regression or you have a really old extension version.
    - lucgommans 3y ago
      Omg, it works! Why does this work? It doesn't work on Firefox ~4 on Windows XP with a real Flash player installed, nor does it work on MSIE8 on that system. I tried on the original site as well as on a custom file that embeds just that flash file, but no dice. I suppose it's worth uploading the swf to archive.org and seeing if it will work there as well. Edit: https://archive.org/details/newyorktimes-2010-interactive-rockpaperscissors https://archive.org/details/newyorktimes-2010-interactive-ro... says "failed to download game data" but I'm not seeing a failed request in the developer console. Not sure if that's a problem with my upload or if IA hasn't finished processing it or something. /edit It's not fully functional by the way: the computer is not being animated at all, the text areas are too small, the score counter doesn't update... but it runs! Thank you :)
      - nosamu 3y ago
        I've opened some new Ruffle issues so we can hopefully fix the problems you mentioned: https://github.com/ruffle-rs/ruffle/issues/12071 https://github.com/ruffle-rs/ruffle/issues/12071 https://github.com/ruffle-rs/ruffle/issues/12073 https://github.com/ruffle-rs/ruffle/issues/12073 As I noted on those issues, this game uses multiple assets, so downloading and playing just the main SWF file won't work. You can play the game by loading the URL of its main SWF file in the Adobe Flash projector, which can still be downloaded from here: http://web.archive.org/web/20220401020702/https://www.adobe.com/support/flashplayer/debug_downloads.html http://web.archive.org/web/20220401020702/https://www.adobe....

Bakingpotato 3y ago

I think so. They had it before, but it worked kinda funky it should be better now.

codetrotter 3y ago

Hope this means that I can play Attak by Johnny Two Shoes again. https://web.archive.org/web/20161126122429/http://www.johnnytwoshoes.com/game/attak https://web.archive.org/web/20161126122429/http://www.johnny... There was a time when I used to play that game every day.