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I've always found WordPress performance doesn't change much on lower vs higher end hardware. It seems to be limited by itself.
by Saris 3y ago
I've always found WordPress performance doesn't change much on lower vs higher end hardware. It seems to be limited by itself.
- WhackyIdeas 3y agoAbsolutely. The other day, I took my slow Wordpress server hosted at Vultr on bare metal (£200/pm) and put it on a server at £500 per month and even after doing all the performance tuning I could with MySQL and PHP I couldn’t notice a difference in speed when I was on the back-end where Cloudflare wasn’t caching it. I then tested on a lower performance server which costs £80 per month at Vultr and again couldn’t detect any difference when in the back-end. No matter what performance tuning I done, I couldn’t make it work faster for us. But at least I am on an £80 server instead of a £500 server I guess.
- photomatt 3y agoJust come to WP.com and we'll run it super-fast, auto-updated, and secure for $25/mo.
- ushakov 3y agoDidn’t know you owned that domain. How/when did you get it?
- program 3y agoIt's Matt. Automattic CEO.
- ushakov 3y agoI know. Still curious about the 2-letter .com though
- photomatt 3y agoDomains are my vice. Also have w.org. Ma.tt. I would rather have a cool IP address (like Cloudflare's) or domain than a fancy car or boat.
- deleted 3y ago[deleted]
- b0ner_t0ner 3y agoWhen are .wp TLDs coming?
- swissspidy 3y agoThey already own .blog
- nullcipher 3y agoThe link in your profile doesnt work - http://www.justin.tv/startupschool/b/298808177 http://www.justin.tv/startupschool/b/298808177
- dboreham 3y agoThere was a time when you could register one and two letter domains.
- rob 3y ago
- goldenkey 3y agoDoes wordpress.com used a forked version? Last time I remember that the custom themes were limited for the hosted solution. Maybe this was for performance reasons?
- photomatt 3y agoOn the business plan (25/mo) you can run any plugin or theme, or custom code. You also have full SSH/SFTP and wp-cli access.
- sogen 3y agoCan it run custom plugins?
- Vindl 3y agoYes. You can deploy your custom plugins and themes.
- rob 3y agoThat plan actually looks really reasonable. I'm pretty sure when I last looked at it many years ago that stuff wasn't possible. Thanks for WordPress - it's great. I think I first started 'using' it around 2006/2007ish.
- poliuk 3y agoIt's not a fork, is WordPress running on the best infrastructure possible: http://wordpress.com/hosting http://wordpress.com/hosting
- jameshush 3y agoI don’t work for Automattic but after spending years trying to “save money” on wordpress hosting I agree just spend the extra cash for a proper managed soloution. Life is too short to spend optimizing page load for your marketing site when its already a solved problem
- michelb 3y agoI've got a client using LearnDash, BuddyBoss, WPML, ACF and Woo for their subscription platform. It's dog-slow on the uncached pages, even on a very beefy server with only 5 concurrent users, choking the database apparently. Serving only 2 countries so don't need a CDN per se. (Why) Would this be faster on wp.com?
- nagpai 3y agoYou should certainly give it a shot.
- rpgbr 3y agoI just noticed WP.com Business tier exists recently. It’s a no-brain, indeed. On Thursday I signed with you guys and planning to move my site today. (Wish me luck!) Moving will save me ~90% of what I was paying for a managed VPS.
- WhackyIdeas 3y agoThere is a worry that I have about switching to a company like yours… What really happens if you decided you didn’t like the products a website sold? …Would you give them the time to move and take their backups with then or would you immediately hit the delete button on their data? These are the reasons we switched to self-hosted Wordpress in the beginning. You don’t need to be on HN for long each day to see the same stories being told continuously about how the big guys treat the wee people.
- RadixDLT 3y agoyou have to make sure you are on the right server, (apache vS enginx)
- judah 3y agoWhat's the answer to making WordPress sites faster? I too have tried better hardware, CDNs, plugins like WP Super Cache, and others means of optimizing. Very little impact. Is the problem PHP? I'm thinking of trying one of those plugins that convert the WordPress site to static web site. I'd imagine that'd have a big impact, at least for sites that don't need e.g. login, shopping carts, etc.
- easyThrowaway 3y agoThe problem is architectural. Wordpress at its core execute most of its user-facing code trough an un-parallelizable, self-modifying single threaded queue, which has to be run at every page reload[1] and everything and anything will have to inject stuff in it. From handling your pictures in your media library, to checking your server can actually send mails, to managing your page and posts content and layout, everything goes trough it. It's also a system that doesn't really play ball very easily with most PHP accelerators outside of baseline PHP opcache. You may have better luck using a static cache or memcached. Depending on the theme you're using (90% of what's available from envato themeforest, for example) the improvement will be negligible due to the impact of all the uncachable third-party jquery plugins that are usually included on a commercial theme. All of the data you're accessing is also for the most part queried from two tables of a single database instance[2] which again handles everything from your mail configuration, page routing and redirection, page layout, contents, stored forms, etc. No sharding, load balancing is natively available. Heck, most WP hosted solutions run MySQL on the same instance running Apache and PHP. Also the data is usually stored as serialized php values, which have to be parsed and reformatted, again, at every page load using the system described beforehand. [1]https://github.com/WordPress/wordpress-develop/blob/6.2/src/wp-includes/plugin.php#L121-L131 https://github.com/WordPress/wordpress-develop/blob/6.2/src/... [2]https://codex.wordpress.org/Database_Description https://codex.wordpress.org/Database_Description
- thomaslord 3y agoThe problem is the ecosystem. You can get response times for the main page down pretty low (especially with caching plugins) and the time to serve static assets is the same for Wordpress or a static site. Most likely if your site feels slow, the culprit is your theme and one or more plugins on your site. You can usually track down problem plugin(s) using PageSpeed Insights since their frontend assets are served from the plugin folders.
- joshspankit 3y agoYes, but: Number of concurrent visitors can change dramatically on lower vs higher. A caching plugin mitigates this somewhat, but I find that most companies don’t test whether their site can handle surges, or even if it can handle the projected traffic load.