I think you also missed my point,as I tried to explain to another commenter, there are people and organizations that to do both good and bad things, marx's sill

I think you also missed my point,as I tried to explain to another commenter, there are people and organizations that to do both good and bad things, marx's silliness is his reductionism. You must know little about Christianity if you think driving workers to death is cool with it. Even animals shouldn't be treated that way. The catholics did much worse than help hitler, even now I personally don't like that organization. But don't tell me there were no atheist nazis or the tens of millions stalin killed as part of his atheistic org (even more for mao) should be ignored. The intellectual dishonesty here is that both marxism and religions have specific text and teachings, using the actions of people that abuse naive followers for their personal goals as evidence of that belief being flawed is my issue here.