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I think this is accurate. I feel more on the outside the more I push into keeping costs low, not opting in to millennial megaplex apartments, all the consumptio

I think this is accurate. I feel more on the outside the more I push into keeping costs low, not opting in to millennial megaplex apartments, all the consumption, all the social media. I hate feeling like in this position of a Luddite-hipster but I’m not hustling in my career and comp just do I can suck all my money and time into that. But increasingly, doing this brands you as “alternative.”

soupfordummies 3y ago
My non-tech-working buddies don’t understand why I don’t want to PC game on discord all night at the same desk I just spent all day working in. Hell, even some of my tech-working buddies don’t either. Kinda ironic that it’s more often than not the techie folks who are unplugging more often so to speak.
- dogman144 3y ago
  Ya I work in tech for the opp to keep it all at a distance from me. I’ve specifically thought about how stupid the loop is of building stuff at the computer and then turning around and consume all the same stuff I build for work (so to speak). Every time I’m on Reddit I hate myself. I also hate that that I can’t install an easy DNS blocking tool that isn’t likely selling my traffic and also works always (ie mobile and Wi-Fi, so PiHole is only half of this). It’s like being too far past the abstraction to see the tech product galaxy as a “worthwhile activity” and I try to keep it out of my life now.
  - jonasdegendt 3y ago
    Just thinking out loud here because I haven’t actually looked into this, but isn’t the second half just running your own DNS with black lists and pointing your phone at it? Just did a quick search in my iPhone settings and it seems like I can’t actually set up DNS myself. I do know I can configure a VPN, point it at your home network, at that point the PiHole can do its thing again.
    - dogman144 3y ago
      That’s an interesting approach, thanks for sharing. I will dig into both ideas more for cellular service blocking, thanks for breaking this open a bit for me. I wish sometimes someone could offer up a solution where if I opted in, then reddit and the rest of my known offender websites that suck my time and attention abilities away get blocked for life. The issue, in my mind, is essentially mass auto-opting in to tech consumer patterns and it being very hard to “opt out” without data sales/privacy or DIY FOSS blocking. I wish I had better willpower to stop my internet patterns organically, and I have axed out big chunks over the years (social media is only hackernews and LI for me). Or, I could probably reach out for an ADHD diagnosis. I’m fairly certain I don’t have it unless it’s some internet-induced version, but I know the RXs work for focus. I don’t want to get locked into a RX dependency just for 101 life functionality in the face of the internet though. Tough times.
  - akeck 3y ago
    For private mobile filtering, some folks do something along the lines of: * $5/month VPS running Wireguard and pihole * Use iOS/Android Wireguard app to route all traffic through VPS with local VPS pihole as your Wireguard DNS server.
JohnFen 3y ago
> I hate feeling like in this position of a Luddite-hipster Wanting a well-balanced life isn't being a "luddite". Also, the term "luddite" as an insult is in fashion these days and is tossed around so often that it's become mostly meaningless anyway. It does tell you something interesting about the people who use it, though.
- dogman144 3y ago
  Yes I think the tricky aspect of any sort of mass-reversion out of a digital-first life is that so many have bought into it, asking for something different is seen as an implicit criticism of their choices, and by extension them. IMO it’s a little bit of this sure (why are you giving your 8 year old unlimited screen time…), but also the bad offenders literally came out of UI/UXs literally pioneered addictive design labs (Stanford etc). Hence, Luddite criticisms.

soupfordummies 3y ago

My non-tech-working buddies don’t understand why I don’t want to PC game on discord all night at the same desk I just spent all day working in. Hell, even some of my tech-working buddies don’t either. Kinda ironic that it’s more often than not the techie folks who are unplugging more often so to speak.

dogman144 3y ago
Ya I work in tech for the opp to keep it all at a distance from me. I’ve specifically thought about how stupid the loop is of building stuff at the computer and then turning around and consume all the same stuff I build for work (so to speak). Every time I’m on Reddit I hate myself. I also hate that that I can’t install an easy DNS blocking tool that isn’t likely selling my traffic and also works always (ie mobile and Wi-Fi, so PiHole is only half of this). It’s like being too far past the abstraction to see the tech product galaxy as a “worthwhile activity” and I try to keep it out of my life now.
- jonasdegendt 3y ago
  Just thinking out loud here because I haven’t actually looked into this, but isn’t the second half just running your own DNS with black lists and pointing your phone at it? Just did a quick search in my iPhone settings and it seems like I can’t actually set up DNS myself. I do know I can configure a VPN, point it at your home network, at that point the PiHole can do its thing again.
  - dogman144 3y ago
    That’s an interesting approach, thanks for sharing. I will dig into both ideas more for cellular service blocking, thanks for breaking this open a bit for me. I wish sometimes someone could offer up a solution where if I opted in, then reddit and the rest of my known offender websites that suck my time and attention abilities away get blocked for life. The issue, in my mind, is essentially mass auto-opting in to tech consumer patterns and it being very hard to “opt out” without data sales/privacy or DIY FOSS blocking. I wish I had better willpower to stop my internet patterns organically, and I have axed out big chunks over the years (social media is only hackernews and LI for me). Or, I could probably reach out for an ADHD diagnosis. I’m fairly certain I don’t have it unless it’s some internet-induced version, but I know the RXs work for focus. I don’t want to get locked into a RX dependency just for 101 life functionality in the face of the internet though. Tough times.
- akeck 3y ago
  For private mobile filtering, some folks do something along the lines of: * $5/month VPS running Wireguard and pihole * Use iOS/Android Wireguard app to route all traffic through VPS with local VPS pihole as your Wireguard DNS server.

JohnFen 3y ago

> I hate feeling like in this position of a Luddite-hipster Wanting a well-balanced life isn't being a "luddite". Also, the term "luddite" as an insult is in fashion these days and is tossed around so often that it's become mostly meaningless anyway. It does tell you something interesting about the people who use it, though.

dogman144 3y ago
Yes I think the tricky aspect of any sort of mass-reversion out of a digital-first life is that so many have bought into it, asking for something different is seen as an implicit criticism of their choices, and by extension them. IMO it’s a little bit of this sure (why are you giving your 8 year old unlimited screen time…), but also the bad offenders literally came out of UI/UXs literally pioneered addictive design labs (Stanford etc). Hence, Luddite criticisms.