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> To be truly countercultural in a time of tech hegemony, one has to, above all, betray the platform which may come in the form of betraying or divesting from y

by pkdpic 3y ago

> To be truly countercultural in a time of tech hegemony, one has to, above all, betray the platform which may come in the form of betraying or divesting from your public online self. Interesting enough quote, maybe obvious but maybe a nice reminder too. > Search Google Images for ‘counterculture’ and it overwhelmingly returns black-and-white photos of young people all now over 60. I just love the idea of some social media addicted teenager trying to break free and google image searching "counterculture"... I'm sure that was me c.2005

gtirloni 3y ago
Because the term didn't exist or was popularized by people that are now over 60. --- counterculture (n.) also counter-culture, "way of life or collective values deliberately at variance with the prevailing norms of a time and place," 1968, from counter- + culture (n.). Popularized by, and perhaps coined in, the book "The Making of a Counter Culture" by U.S. academic Theodore Roszak. As an adjective by 1972.
- dragonwriter 3y ago
  > Because the term didn't exist or was popularized by people that are now over 60. And because even if it was nominally a generic term, its use to describe the generic phenomenon faded with the aging of the particular youth counterculture movement it was coined for; “punk” and later movements which might fairly be described as countercultural were never as popularly labeled with the term “counterculture” as the hippies were, and now it's a term groups overtly focused on exaggerating traditional elements of mainstream culture claim as a means of clout chasing.
  - parentheses 3y ago
    ++ I'm too old to know what the current counter culture is. I think when I was young it was the emo crowd making melancholy ok (not emo so guessing).
    - dragonwriter 3y ago
      > I'm too old to know what the current counter culture is. Its old people from the establishment culture that elevate particular countercultural movements to the status of “the counterculture” of the time.
joshspankit 3y ago
I wonder... Is it because with increasing cultural fragmentation there is no longer a single culture to be counter to and therefore the term itself is outdated?

by pkdpic 3y ago

gtirloni 3y ago

Because the term didn't exist or was popularized by people that are now over 60. --- counterculture (n.) also counter-culture, "way of life or collective values deliberately at variance with the prevailing norms of a time and place," 1968, from counter- + culture (n.). Popularized by, and perhaps coined in, the book "The Making of a Counter Culture" by U.S. academic Theodore Roszak. As an adjective by 1972.

dragonwriter 3y ago
> Because the term didn't exist or was popularized by people that are now over 60. And because even if it was nominally a generic term, its use to describe the generic phenomenon faded with the aging of the particular youth counterculture movement it was coined for; “punk” and later movements which might fairly be described as countercultural were never as popularly labeled with the term “counterculture” as the hippies were, and now it's a term groups overtly focused on exaggerating traditional elements of mainstream culture claim as a means of clout chasing.
- parentheses 3y ago
  ++ I'm too old to know what the current counter culture is. I think when I was young it was the emo crowd making melancholy ok (not emo so guessing).
  - dragonwriter 3y ago
    > I'm too old to know what the current counter culture is. Its old people from the establishment culture that elevate particular countercultural movements to the status of “the counterculture” of the time.

joshspankit 3y ago

I wonder... Is it because with increasing cultural fragmentation there is no longer a single culture to be counter to and therefore the term itself is outdated?