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If 100+ million Americans lives in cities, making cities not requiring cars to live in them is a pretty good plus, no? Rural people can keep having their vehicl

by piva00 3y ago

If 100+ million Americans lives in cities, making cities not requiring cars to live in them is a pretty good plus, no? Rural people can keep having their vehicles if they need them, GP didn't say anything against that.

Izkata 3y ago
> making cities not requiring cars to live in them is a pretty good plus, no? Some cities are doing this, but they're not the ones attempting 15-minute cities. The 15-minute cities are doing things like putting up barricades to make driving more of a pain, without actually making them more livable in those confined locations.
- piva00 3y ago
  > The 15-minute cities are doing things like putting up barricades to make driving more of a pain, without actually making them more livable in those confined locations. Examples? I live in Europe, 15-min cities are quite standard here so I don't really grasp this American issue.
  - Izkata 3y ago
    Like this: https://twitter.com/madelynrogers/status/1623469125103153152 https://twitter.com/madelynrogers/status/1623469125103153152
    - piva00 3y ago
      Examples of cities, not one tweet from one location :)
- ryukafalz 3y ago
  Filtered permeability (which is what I think you're referring to re: barricades) does itself help you live without a car nearby. It cuts down on through traffic for cars in those areas which makes it safer and more comfortable to bike there.
  - GaryNumanVevo 3y ago
    Exactly, why should cities optimize for people who have to drive into them, vs people who already live and pay taxes there?