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Regarding possible tradeoffs, I'm not buying it. Samsung Galaxy S5 had: - easy user removable/swapable battery 2800mah - external port for microSDXC - audio

by pzo 3y ago

Regarding possible tradeoffs, I'm not buying it. Samsung Galaxy S5 had: - easy user removable/swapable battery 2800mah - external port for microSDXC - audiojack - was still IP67 dust/water resistant (up to 1m for 30 min) - 5.1 inches AMOLED screen - just 145g weight - just 8.1 mm thickness - this was already mass produced in 2014

myspy 3y ago
Yeah, I always wondered why Apple didn't achieve this at the time and had to remove headphone port and home button to make it water resistant. But that nomenclature is void if you ask me. I got water on the upper front part of my iPhone XS which is IP whatever and Face ID died. Apple said they wouldn't give me a new one because water resistant doesn't mean they have to replace your phone when something happens.
- pzo 3y ago
  I feel you - I had actually the same issue with my iphone XS few months ago - I was hiking for few hours inside humid cave. Even though I had phone in waterproof bag my TrueDepth sensor stopped working.
- user2342 3y ago
  > I always wondered why Apple didn't achieve this at the time and had to remove headphone port and home button to make it water resistant. They didn't do this for water proof iPhones - that were lame excuses. They removed e.g. the headphone jack early to increase incentives to adopot (the then future) Airpods.
- qball 3y ago
  >had to remove headphone port and home button to make it water resistant. This was an outright lie; some Android manufacturers (I believe it was Samsung and Sony, but maybe others as well) had waterproof phones with headphone jacks and it didn't seem to negatively affect the phone in other ways.
  - scarface_74 3y ago
    Except for that whole “requiring a rubber flap to be over the port to get water resistance” in the case of Samsung.
scarface_74 3y ago
And you conveniently skip the little part about “only if you had the little rubber flap closed covering the jacks and only if you put the battery back in just right”.
- BenjiWiebe 3y ago
  (replying from my S5..) The rubber flap is only on the charging port. Also, I can't figure out how there could be more than one way to replace the battery. It's incredibly simple.
  - scarface_74 3y ago
    So you don’t think requiring the rubber flap to be closed to have water resistance is a problem? Samsung even had a warning display on the phone when you turned it on to make sure the battery was secure.
    - nikau 3y ago
      And my galaxy s8 has usb-c and is waterproof, so a robust waterproof connector is a solved problem, they even have moisture detection by measuring resistance between a few pins.

by pzo 3y ago

myspy 3y ago

Yeah, I always wondered why Apple didn't achieve this at the time and had to remove headphone port and home button to make it water resistant. But that nomenclature is void if you ask me. I got water on the upper front part of my iPhone XS which is IP whatever and Face ID died. Apple said they wouldn't give me a new one because water resistant doesn't mean they have to replace your phone when something happens.

pzo 3y ago
I feel you - I had actually the same issue with my iphone XS few months ago - I was hiking for few hours inside humid cave. Even though I had phone in waterproof bag my TrueDepth sensor stopped working.
user2342 3y ago
> I always wondered why Apple didn't achieve this at the time and had to remove headphone port and home button to make it water resistant. They didn't do this for water proof iPhones - that were lame excuses. They removed e.g. the headphone jack early to increase incentives to adopot (the then future) Airpods.
qball 3y ago
>had to remove headphone port and home button to make it water resistant. This was an outright lie; some Android manufacturers (I believe it was Samsung and Sony, but maybe others as well) had waterproof phones with headphone jacks and it didn't seem to negatively affect the phone in other ways.
- scarface_74 3y ago
  Except for that whole “requiring a rubber flap to be over the port to get water resistance” in the case of Samsung.

scarface_74 3y ago

And you conveniently skip the little part about “only if you had the little rubber flap closed covering the jacks and only if you put the battery back in just right”.

BenjiWiebe 3y ago
(replying from my S5..) The rubber flap is only on the charging port. Also, I can't figure out how there could be more than one way to replace the battery. It's incredibly simple.
- scarface_74 3y ago
  So you don’t think requiring the rubber flap to be closed to have water resistance is a problem? Samsung even had a warning display on the phone when you turned it on to make sure the battery was secure.
  - nikau 3y ago
    And my galaxy s8 has usb-c and is waterproof, so a robust waterproof connector is a solved problem, they even have moisture detection by measuring resistance between a few pins.