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> Art has always been based on algorithms it really hasn't. the art that you see in museums are all examples of ideas and forms that broke the mold. > When ev

> Art has always been based on algorithms it really hasn't. the art that you see in museums are all examples of ideas and forms that broke the mold. > When everyone can create art, art has no value everyone _can_ create art today. art still has value. > Value is always determined by supply against demand if you view art as a purely capitalist enterprise. most people don't. > The brutal reality is art really isn't valuable in the first place (it is after all an unnecessary and inefficient luxury) art is both an expression and driver of human culture. much of our understanding of our species, our ancestors, and our lives comes from art.

__loam 3y ago
> everyone _can_ create art today. art still has value. It's still hilarious to me that the AI side of this argument thinks artists are gatekeeping when all you need to learn is some pens and ream of printer paper, plus a computer with an internet connection. There are literally thousands of videos on youtube from artists teaching you about art. It's maybe the most accessible it has ever been. I _also_ think he gets the supply and demand argument very wrong. Even viewing it in terms of purely capitalistic impulse, the attention economy is a winner take all kind of deal. Some random ass holes making some trite, meaningless art using the same model will quickly drive the price of the outputs of that model to zero. There's still going to be a huge market for original work that has something to say.
- satvikpendem 3y ago
  > It's still hilarious to me that the AI side of this argument thinks artists are gatekeeping when all you need to learn is some pens and ream of printer paper, plus a computer with an internet connection. There are literally thousands of videos on youtube from artists teaching you about art. It's maybe the most accessible it has ever been. Or I could use a tool like Stable Diffusion and create whatever image I want. That's what they mean by supply and demand, when it's this easy, the value of each subsequent image that's created decreases, simply because people will have already seen this type of image.

__loam 3y ago

> everyone _can_ create art today. art still has value. It's still hilarious to me that the AI side of this argument thinks artists are gatekeeping when all you need to learn is some pens and ream of printer paper, plus a computer with an internet connection. There are literally thousands of videos on youtube from artists teaching you about art. It's maybe the most accessible it has ever been. I _also_ think he gets the supply and demand argument very wrong. Even viewing it in terms of purely capitalistic impulse, the attention economy is a winner take all kind of deal. Some random ass holes making some trite, meaningless art using the same model will quickly drive the price of the outputs of that model to zero. There's still going to be a huge market for original work that has something to say.

satvikpendem 3y ago
> It's still hilarious to me that the AI side of this argument thinks artists are gatekeeping when all you need to learn is some pens and ream of printer paper, plus a computer with an internet connection. There are literally thousands of videos on youtube from artists teaching you about art. It's maybe the most accessible it has ever been. Or I could use a tool like Stable Diffusion and create whatever image I want. That's what they mean by supply and demand, when it's this easy, the value of each subsequent image that's created decreases, simply because people will have already seen this type of image.