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So the FBI has been waging war against the US government; interesting.

by SNK 15y ago

sliverstorm 15y ago
If you read the article, the leader was not a proper member of the FBI. He merely collaborated with them.
- marshray 15y ago
  If these reports are to be believed, Sabu was working on an FBI-provided laptop with direct 24-hour FBI surveillance of everything he was doing when he hacked Stratfor and dumped their emails to Wikileaks. Other parts of Anonymous disowned Sabu afterwards (see pastebin) for attacking Stratfor, which they considered a news organization and off limits. The Stratfor leak involved almost 1M email addresses and ~100K credit card numbers. A lot of them are said to be bigshots in DC military/security circles. No, I can't explain it either.
  - InclinedPlane 15y ago
    I believe the word you are looking for is "incompetence". Our law enforcement organizations spend years and millions of dollars to infiltrate, track down, and bring to justice criminals. Who do they target? Organized crime? Hostile foreign nations? Fraudsters? Nope, they go after lulzsec and IP "pirates". I don't have a ton of sympathy for either lulzsec or kim dotcom but I can't help but feel that the FBI et al are screwing the pooch here and arresting the moral equivalent of pot dealers while the true terrorists and mobsters go free.
    - sliverstorm 15y ago
      On the other hand, it could turn out to have been valuable practice in the event China gets really serious about cyber attacks. Besides, I would guess there's a rather limited amount of work the FBI's cyber crime unit can do to help bring in mobsters.
    - marshray 15y ago
      No, the FBI is not incompetent. Anonymous/Lulz was/is the biggest hacking group ever. They were hacking businesses, law enforcement, media, websites of the US Congress and the CIA (just to name a few). I really doubt that one could describe a plausible ranking system of law enforcement priorities that wouldn't direct real resources at Anon/Lulz in 2011.

So the FBI has been waging war against the US government; interesting.

by SNK 15y ago

So the FBI has been waging war against the US government; interesting.

sliverstorm 15y ago

If you read the article, the leader was not a proper member of the FBI. He merely collaborated with them.

marshray 15y ago
If these reports are to be believed, Sabu was working on an FBI-provided laptop with direct 24-hour FBI surveillance of everything he was doing when he hacked Stratfor and dumped their emails to Wikileaks. Other parts of Anonymous disowned Sabu afterwards (see pastebin) for attacking Stratfor, which they considered a news organization and off limits. The Stratfor leak involved almost 1M email addresses and ~100K credit card numbers. A lot of them are said to be bigshots in DC military/security circles. No, I can't explain it either.
- InclinedPlane 15y ago
  I believe the word you are looking for is "incompetence". Our law enforcement organizations spend years and millions of dollars to infiltrate, track down, and bring to justice criminals. Who do they target? Organized crime? Hostile foreign nations? Fraudsters? Nope, they go after lulzsec and IP "pirates". I don't have a ton of sympathy for either lulzsec or kim dotcom but I can't help but feel that the FBI et al are screwing the pooch here and arresting the moral equivalent of pot dealers while the true terrorists and mobsters go free.
  - sliverstorm 15y ago
    On the other hand, it could turn out to have been valuable practice in the event China gets really serious about cyber attacks. Besides, I would guess there's a rather limited amount of work the FBI's cyber crime unit can do to help bring in mobsters.
  - marshray 15y ago
    No, the FBI is not incompetent. Anonymous/Lulz was/is the biggest hacking group ever. They were hacking businesses, law enforcement, media, websites of the US Congress and the CIA (just to name a few). I really doubt that one could describe a plausible ranking system of law enforcement priorities that wouldn't direct real resources at Anon/Lulz in 2011.