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It feels almost like Hollywood is trying very hard to make Timothee Chalomet's career take off and it just... I don't know, I might be out of touch, but it just

It feels almost like Hollywood is trying very hard to make Timothee Chalomet's career take off and it just... I don't know, I might be out of touch, but it just isn't? I recently saw the Wonka trailer that he stars in, and I just don't buy him as Wonka. He doesn't pull off the "weird" or "eccentric" correctly for me. Also, the moment when they are flying in the trailer and he meets an Oompa-Loompa, despite the realism and visual detail elsewhere, made the whole thing look tonally confused.

not-my-account 3y ago
but also, why the heck are they making another wonka? I don't think that the big studios are worth watching anymore - they're attempting to maximize expected ROI, not make a great movie (which is understandable in their position). Luckily there are many other smaller studios that will continue making much better movies for the sake of making art.
- smcl 3y ago
  I honestly don’t know what people are getting out of seeing the same movies getting remade again and again. Wonka isn’t even the worst, how many Spider/Batmen have there been this century alone?
  - spywaregorilla 3y ago
    They're not really the same. Many of them are not good. You may not like them. But they're clearly different stories tackling different ideas. Personally I think Spiderman 1 and 2 were solid, genre defining films. Amazing Spiderman 1 & 2 were ruined by Sony but the art direction was honestly super good. and the MCU Spiderman 1 and 2 were pretty neat.
    - PawgerZ 3y ago
      Don't forget about spider verse 1 & 2.
- Dalewyn 3y ago
  >but also, why the heck are they making another wonka? Because they are in the mindset of protecting existing incomes with minimal risk, rather than a mindset of innovating and challenging the market because the only income is the one you can dig out and grasp with a death grip. Willy Wonka sold once upon a time, so clearly it will sell again right? Instead of a completely new thing that may or may not sell.
carabiner 3y ago
It's because they're nepo babies. Really forgettable people installed from parental connections.
linksnapzz 3y ago
Before him, they were trying to launch Shia LaBeef the same way; then Sam Worthington...this is an ongoing project for agents, publicists, studios...like Hollywood's version of a new SpaceX rocket. There will be explosions and failures, and then back to the drawing-board. ...and yeah, Willy Wonka is a tough role, mostly because Gene Wilder's version has become the standard that you'd be held to.

not-my-account 3y ago

but also, why the heck are they making another wonka? I don't think that the big studios are worth watching anymore - they're attempting to maximize expected ROI, not make a great movie (which is understandable in their position). Luckily there are many other smaller studios that will continue making much better movies for the sake of making art.

smcl 3y ago
I honestly don’t know what people are getting out of seeing the same movies getting remade again and again. Wonka isn’t even the worst, how many Spider/Batmen have there been this century alone?
- spywaregorilla 3y ago
  They're not really the same. Many of them are not good. You may not like them. But they're clearly different stories tackling different ideas. Personally I think Spiderman 1 and 2 were solid, genre defining films. Amazing Spiderman 1 & 2 were ruined by Sony but the art direction was honestly super good. and the MCU Spiderman 1 and 2 were pretty neat.
  - PawgerZ 3y ago
    Don't forget about spider verse 1 & 2.
Dalewyn 3y ago
>but also, why the heck are they making another wonka? Because they are in the mindset of protecting existing incomes with minimal risk, rather than a mindset of innovating and challenging the market because the only income is the one you can dig out and grasp with a death grip. Willy Wonka sold once upon a time, so clearly it will sell again right? Instead of a completely new thing that may or may not sell.

carabiner 3y ago

It's because they're nepo babies. Really forgettable people installed from parental connections.

linksnapzz 3y ago

Before him, they were trying to launch Shia LaBeef the same way; then Sam Worthington...this is an ongoing project for agents, publicists, studios...like Hollywood's version of a new SpaceX rocket. There will be explosions and failures, and then back to the drawing-board. ...and yeah, Willy Wonka is a tough role, mostly because Gene Wilder's version has become the standard that you'd be held to.