Documents yes, meetings no but also secretly yes. Documents are an artifact you can point to, and getting comments and references also looks good. Managers do

Documents yes, meetings no but also secretly yes. Documents are an artifact you can point to, and getting comments and references also looks good. Managers don't care how many hours you sit in meetings, but if you magically show leadership by driving meetings and somehow document that, then it counts. No one talks to end users though not engineers anyway. We just build dumb things the PMs want.