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The waterproofing in particular makes me think this is likely. Many average consumers care way more about having a device that will survive being dropped in the
by crooked-v 3y ago
The waterproofing in particular makes me think this is likely. Many average consumers care way more about having a device that will survive being dropped in the sink now than they do about replacing an 80% capacity battery in two years.
- pjmlp 3y agoNokia already had waterproof phones during the Symbian OS and Series 30/40 heyday. They did just fine with replaceable batteries.
- The_Colonel 3y agoSamsung S5 was waterproof while having replaceable battery. Technology is certainly there. But I also question your premise, I don't think it's as clear. I've never dropped my phone in a sink, but had battery issues with basically every phone. Often the battery starts failing much earlier than 80% in two years.
- traverseda 3y agoWhat I've never understood is why all this waterproofing effort is going into making perfectly sealed little boxes when I imagine that a factory applied conformal coating would do a similar job. It seems like they're focused on making the box the electronics are in water proof instead of making the electronics themselves waterproof. Sure, the screen might be a bit harder and you'd need to pay special attention to any connector, maybe re-applying the coating if you remove a connector, but I just don't get it. Does conformal coating not work as well as I imagine it does? Is it too expensive to apply? Does it have some kind of heat dissipation drawback I'm not aware of? To me it looks like water proofing is being used as an excuse to add built-in obsolescence to products, since I imagine that conformal coating would do the job better. What am I missing?
- HWR_14 3y agoThis is about replacing, and thus having access to, the battery and it's terminals. Water is a conductor. I imagine shorting the battery terminals with water will have disastrous consequences, regardless of if the RAM is encased in epoxy.
- dkjaudyeqooe 3y agoMaking a phone waterproof doesn't require gluing the battery to the chassis and gluing the back on.
- rightbyte 3y ago> replacing an 80% capacity battery in two years The falloff has to be way more than 20% for two years?
- The_Colonel 3y agoIt heavily depends on the usage pattern. If you charge in the evening to 100%, let it on the charger overnight and then during the day discharge to 0%, that might kill the battery completely within 2 years. Keeping it within 20-80% most of the time might keep the battery healthier.
- ars 3y ago20 is a bit low - I would stay above 40.
- xboxnolifes 3y agoWhy
- ars 3y agoBecause 20% will still harm a battery (less then 0% obviously), above 40 to 80 approximately the no-harm zone.
- ghaff 3y agoI have a 3 year old phone that's at 85%. That seems to be a pretty normal pattern for me over the past 10+ years.
- thebruce87m 3y agoiPhone 11 Pro Max (Sep 2019) on 86% here.
- manuelmoreale 3y agoSame phone, sitting at 82% without caring too much about charging patterns.
- ars 3y agoWhy do people keep mentioning waterproofing? There is exactly nothing preventing a waterproof phone from having a replaceable battery. It's not even hard to do. The main faucet to your house sits under 60psi water pressure all day, and the moving parts are removable. This is 100 year old technology.