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Oh Fox News. Even when reporting on something legitimately interesting and out of the ordinary, they have to use very un-journalistic phrases like "...allegedly

by ebbv 15y ago

Oh Fox News. Even when reporting on something legitimately interesting and out of the ordinary, they have to use very un-journalistic phrases like "...allegedly commanded a loosely organized, international team of perhaps thousands of hackers..." "Perhaps thousands"? Perhaps millions! Perhaps five. Ugh.

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feralchimp 15y ago
Sex! Drugs? Maybe. Rock and roll? We'll find out!
corford 15y ago
There's a slightly less breathless and more coherent report here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/mar/06/lulzsec-sabu-working-for-us-fbi?newsfeed=true http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/mar/06/lulzsec-sab...
- eli 15y ago
  Give credit where its due: Fox News broke this story. The Guardian report appears to be based solely on the earlier Fox story and public documents.
  - nmridul 15y ago
    It has nothing to do with giving credits. I (and I'm sure many others would also) like to read less tabloid-y and factual reporting anytime and so would prefer to read the story on Guardian than on Fox.
    - eli 15y ago
      But the quotes are literally lifted from the Fox piece. The Guardian does not add much new reporting, it just lays out the existing facts in a way you find more agreeable.
      - corford 15y ago
        Which is what I thought I made clear when I linked to it i.e. same report, less hyperbole. Perhaps you would have preferred it if I had used the word "version" rather than "report"?
    - nikcub 15y ago
      the Guardian is a re-blog of an original fox story. you are showing a bias
whamill 15y ago
They use lots of confusingly contradictory language to puff up the arrest, like: "the head of LulzSec" then immediately following with "the loose network of hackers", and contrasting "loosely organised" with Sabu being at the "nerve centre", and also "perhaps thousands of hackers" whereas they claim to know they're arresting "top-ranking members". So simultaneously acknowledging they taking out a member of a distributed network but also talking up the importance of that member. Strange.
- eli 15y ago
  You really don't see how a group could be both "loosely organized" and have yet also have members who act as leaders?

by ebbv 15y ago

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feralchimp 15y ago

Sex! Drugs? Maybe. Rock and roll? We'll find out!

corford 15y ago

There's a slightly less breathless and more coherent report here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/mar/06/lulzsec-sabu-working-for-us-fbi?newsfeed=true http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/mar/06/lulzsec-sab...

eli 15y ago
Give credit where its due: Fox News broke this story. The Guardian report appears to be based solely on the earlier Fox story and public documents.
- nmridul 15y ago
  It has nothing to do with giving credits. I (and I'm sure many others would also) like to read less tabloid-y and factual reporting anytime and so would prefer to read the story on Guardian than on Fox.
  - eli 15y ago
    But the quotes are literally lifted from the Fox piece. The Guardian does not add much new reporting, it just lays out the existing facts in a way you find more agreeable.
    - corford 15y ago
      Which is what I thought I made clear when I linked to it i.e. same report, less hyperbole. Perhaps you would have preferred it if I had used the word "version" rather than "report"?
  - nikcub 15y ago
    the Guardian is a re-blog of an original fox story. you are showing a bias

whamill 15y ago

They use lots of confusingly contradictory language to puff up the arrest, like: "the head of LulzSec" then immediately following with "the loose network of hackers", and contrasting "loosely organised" with Sabu being at the "nerve centre", and also "perhaps thousands of hackers" whereas they claim to know they're arresting "top-ranking members". So simultaneously acknowledging they taking out a member of a distributed network but also talking up the importance of that member. Strange.

eli 15y ago
You really don't see how a group could be both "loosely organized" and have yet also have members who act as leaders?