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You're misunderstanding. It's not that they can't know things outside of programming (which is your strawman), it's that they usually don't make the real effor

You're misunderstanding. It's not that they can't know things outside of programming (which is your strawman), it's that they usually don't make the real effort to learn, and think reading a few blog articles makes them knowledgeable about a subject.

tracker1 3y ago
At what point does one cross this arbitrary barrier to being proficiently knowledgable in a subject outside their profession? I'm a self taught developer with nearly three decades of experience, still spending 10+ hours a week expanding my craft (reading/experimenting). But in the past 5-7 years have spent twice that time on food and nutrition science study. Part of that understanding research quality, not just quantity, and the value of different types of testing vs study.
- SantalBlush 3y ago
  So you believe all of that time you put in suggests that you know more about the subject of food and nutrition? To put it another way: if you could have acquired all of that knowledge without spending so much time and effort, then why didn't you?
  - tracker1 3y ago
    Yes, I believe all that time I put into learning means I do know more than most. And no, I didn't suggest that I'd have that knowledge without the time, effort and study, never did. I'm not sure what you are asking exactly. The initial response above seems to indicate that a person shouldn't speak on something outside their primary career. So my question is, at what point is one able to pass the bar of being able to speak to a subject materially?
    - SantalBlush 3y ago
      To be honest, it seems like we mostly agree, so I don't see what the issue is. >The initial response above seems to indicate that a person shouldn't speak on something outside their primary career. Already addressed this in the very comment above that you replied to. This is incorrect. Regarding where the "bar" is exactly, that is of course subjective. But I reject any idea that its subjectivity implies that all opinions are valid or whatever it is you're suggesting, because they're not. Some opinions are uninformed, and I have no problem saying so.

tracker1 3y ago

At what point does one cross this arbitrary barrier to being proficiently knowledgable in a subject outside their profession? I'm a self taught developer with nearly three decades of experience, still spending 10+ hours a week expanding my craft (reading/experimenting). But in the past 5-7 years have spent twice that time on food and nutrition science study. Part of that understanding research quality, not just quantity, and the value of different types of testing vs study.

SantalBlush 3y ago
So you believe all of that time you put in suggests that you know more about the subject of food and nutrition? To put it another way: if you could have acquired all of that knowledge without spending so much time and effort, then why didn't you?
- tracker1 3y ago
  Yes, I believe all that time I put into learning means I do know more than most. And no, I didn't suggest that I'd have that knowledge without the time, effort and study, never did. I'm not sure what you are asking exactly. The initial response above seems to indicate that a person shouldn't speak on something outside their primary career. So my question is, at what point is one able to pass the bar of being able to speak to a subject materially?
  - SantalBlush 3y ago
    To be honest, it seems like we mostly agree, so I don't see what the issue is. >The initial response above seems to indicate that a person shouldn't speak on something outside their primary career. Already addressed this in the very comment above that you replied to. This is incorrect. Regarding where the "bar" is exactly, that is of course subjective. But I reject any idea that its subjectivity implies that all opinions are valid or whatever it is you're suggesting, because they're not. Some opinions are uninformed, and I have no problem saying so.