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do you know of any states where it isn’t legal? google searching lead me to this: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/24/us/birth-control-plan-b-roe-abortion.html h

by rvcdbn 3y ago

do you know of any states where it isn’t legal? google searching lead me to this: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/24/us/birth-control-plan-b-roe-abortion.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/24/us/birth-control-plan-b-r... which seems to suggest that it’s legal everywhere

runako 3y ago
Is there anything in current US politics around pregnancy that might make you consider that the legal regime in this area might be changing?
- zeroonetwothree 3y ago
  Even abortion hasn’t yet become illegal in as many places as the doomsayers predicted. The pill is extremely popular by comparison.
  - runako 3y ago
    Back to my point though, what is the trajectory of the legal landscape? Has that trajectory changed recently?
  - Ensorceled 3y ago
    > Even abortion hasn’t yet become illegal in as many places as the doomsayers predicted. I'm sure the women who live in the areas where it has been made illegal are happy that the "doomsayers" over estimated the number of places.
- rvcdbn 3y ago
  sure but the previous comment made it sound like it was already illegal which would have been really surprising to me. I’m no fan of recent regressions in abortion law but the arguments made by pro-lifers that I’ve heard would not apply to birth control (ie that abortion is essentially killing a human). so I would actually expect them to favor birth control as a way to prevent abortion. that’s assuming their position is really based on their stated beliefs and not something else unstated or irrational (and I decline to take a position on this question at this time).
  - runako 3y ago
    The largest Christian denomination has a long-standing prohibition on all forms of contraception. (This is in addition to its prohibition on abortion.) IIRC there are currently laws on the books in many states that ban contraception (even condoms in some states). Those laws are (potentially temporarily) invalidated due to Supreme Court opinions. The current Court has expressed the desire and willingness to overturn longstanding precedent. QED it's entirely possible we will see oral contraception and even condoms become illegal in some states.
  - chimeracoder 3y ago
    > I’m no fan of recent regressions in abortion law but the arguments made by pro-lifers that I’ve heard would not apply to birth control (ie that abortion is essentially killing a human). so I would actually expect them to favor birth control as a way to prevent abortion This is a topic that is extensively documented, so you can look up the viewpoints of the groups that have campaigned for decades to overturn Roe v. Wade and to make abortion illegal. As it turns out, they do oppose birth control, and they have explicitly declared that Griswold (which legalized birth control) is one of their next targets.

by rvcdbn 3y ago

runako 3y ago

Is there anything in current US politics around pregnancy that might make you consider that the legal regime in this area might be changing?

zeroonetwothree 3y ago
Even abortion hasn’t yet become illegal in as many places as the doomsayers predicted. The pill is extremely popular by comparison.
- runako 3y ago
  Back to my point though, what is the trajectory of the legal landscape? Has that trajectory changed recently?
- Ensorceled 3y ago
  > Even abortion hasn’t yet become illegal in as many places as the doomsayers predicted. I'm sure the women who live in the areas where it has been made illegal are happy that the "doomsayers" over estimated the number of places.
rvcdbn 3y ago
sure but the previous comment made it sound like it was already illegal which would have been really surprising to me. I’m no fan of recent regressions in abortion law but the arguments made by pro-lifers that I’ve heard would not apply to birth control (ie that abortion is essentially killing a human). so I would actually expect them to favor birth control as a way to prevent abortion. that’s assuming their position is really based on their stated beliefs and not something else unstated or irrational (and I decline to take a position on this question at this time).
- runako 3y ago
  The largest Christian denomination has a long-standing prohibition on all forms of contraception. (This is in addition to its prohibition on abortion.) IIRC there are currently laws on the books in many states that ban contraception (even condoms in some states). Those laws are (potentially temporarily) invalidated due to Supreme Court opinions. The current Court has expressed the desire and willingness to overturn longstanding precedent. QED it's entirely possible we will see oral contraception and even condoms become illegal in some states.
- chimeracoder 3y ago
  > I’m no fan of recent regressions in abortion law but the arguments made by pro-lifers that I’ve heard would not apply to birth control (ie that abortion is essentially killing a human). so I would actually expect them to favor birth control as a way to prevent abortion This is a topic that is extensively documented, so you can look up the viewpoints of the groups that have campaigned for decades to overturn Roe v. Wade and to make abortion illegal. As it turns out, they do oppose birth control, and they have explicitly declared that Griswold (which legalized birth control) is one of their next targets.