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None of that required systemd's basic architecture. That is what is truly regrettable.

• lmm 3y ago
  Forcing adoption probably did though. Better alternatives that played nice with a unix-style system (e.g. runit) existed for years, but since distributions weren't forcing them, services mostly didn't bother integrating with them.
  • Brian_K_White 3y ago
    So what? If a distro doesn't feel any need to adopt runit, so what? But today, you essentially can't have a system without systemd, because it's no longer just a matter of "if you don't want it, don't use it" because all the upstream packages have now changed to depend on it, and now it's a huge job to artificially hack them all back to sysv-init. And as bad as that all is, what makes it all nuclear worse, is the complete disregard and inconsideration for anyone raising that objection.
    • account42 3y ago
      > But today, you essentially can't have a system without systemd Thankfully the Gentoo maintainers still make this easy.
    • always2slow 3y ago
      Void linux is based on runit and is by far the best distro I've ever used after 25 years of distro hopping. (FWIW I've used linux since slackware 3.0)